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STiAT 27 Sep
Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: STiATAnd according to tests, 6800 XT is actually worse than 3070Ti to the sources I am reading at least. But ye, I couldn't cool a 3080 either ...

From what I was reading, 6800 XT is pretty close to 3080 Ti, so I don't expect it to be worse than 3070 Ti really (I mean performance wise).

Very well, I've looked it up, it's actually true, the 6800 TX is ~3.6 % faster than a 3070 Ti, and ~5 % slower than a 3080, so somewhere in between those two :D.
Shmerl 27 Sep
Quoting: STiATVery well, I've looked it up, it's actually true, the 6800 TX is ~3.6 % faster than a 3070 Ti, and ~5 % slower than a 3080, so somewhere in between those two :D.

Plus from what I was reading about Linux gaming specifically, in some workloads Nvidia is just worse due to some of their driver deficiencies, like with vkd3d-proton especially. So I don't regret getting 6800 XT since at least currently I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077.


Last edited by Shmerl on 27 September 2021 at 12:54 am UTC
jordicoma 27 Sep
Sadly I cannot update the specs (as likely many people). It's not that problem of shortage, as I know some places (online) that can be bought one. But the prices are to hight, 2x or 3x (or more) over a msrp that it's already over-expensive, it's to much for a casual linux gamer like me. It's insane.
fearnflavio 27 Sep
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Quoting: ShmerlPlus from what I was reading about Linux gaming specifically, in some workloads Nvidia is just worse due to some of their driver deficiencies, like with vkd3d-proton especially. So I don't regret getting 6800 XT since at least currently I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077.

This was quite true some time ago but right now, especially with Ampere, the performance is really close to windows. I'm playing cyberpunk again, started last year with a 2060, and the performance was basically 70% when compared to windows. Now I've moved to a 3060ti and tested again and when compared to windows I'm losing around 5 to 10% only. And we also have DLSS working with Cyberpunk, I'm not really sure how Lutris team did it, but DLSS is working perfectly on this game. :)
Shmerl 27 Sep
I guess it improved then? I remember vkd3d-proton developers saying it's not going to happen soon.

I get around 80 fps with max settings and 2560 x 1440 with RX 6800 XT so that works well without upscaling.


Last edited by Shmerl on 27 September 2021 at 9:17 am UTC
Eike 27 Sep
Quoting: jordicomaSadly I cannot update the specs (as likely many people). It's not that problem of shortage, as I know some places (online) that can be bought one. But the prices are to hight, 2x or 3x (or more) over a msrp that it's already over-expensive, it's to much for a casual linux gamer like me. It's insane.

I was lucky to update in updating in early 2020. If I would sit on my old hardware now, I'd just keep on sitting on it. ;)
CFWhitman 27 Sep
Under normal circumstances, I would have had to update my build for the video card by now, but with these crazy prices, I'm just not going to buy one right now. I'm waiting until prices return to some semblance of normal.
fearnflavio 27 Sep
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Quoting: ShmerlI guess it improved then? I remember vkd3d-proton developers saying it's not going to happen soon.

I get around 80 fps with max settings and 2560 x 1440 with RX 6800 XT so that works well without upscaling.

Yes. It did, in some games the performance with VKD3d is better than with DXVK for me, for instance with Mortal Shell. With DXVK I need to put the shadows on low otherwise in some places I get less than 30 fps, some weird bug. With VKD3D I get 75fps all the time on all areas with just a few slowdowns, playing at 3440x1440 with everything on ultra.

Cyberpunk with DLSS on Performance and everything on ultra I get around 50 to 60 fps at this resolution.
Without DLSS something around 30fps.
CFWhitman 27 Sep
Quoting: STiAT
Quoting: Shmerl
Quoting: STiATAnd according to tests, 6800 XT is actually worse than 3070Ti to the sources I am reading at least. But ye, I couldn't cool a 3080 either ...

From what I was reading, 6800 XT is pretty close to 3080 Ti, so I don't expect it to be worse than 3070 Ti really (I mean performance wise).

Very well, I've looked it up, it's actually true, the 6800 TX is ~3.6 % faster than a 3070 Ti, and ~5 % slower than a 3080, so somewhere in between those two :D.

The latest tests I've seen from Phoronix show the 6800 XT overall beating out the 3070 Ti rather easily and even edging out the 3080 overall (note: not the 3080 Ti; they don't currently have one of those to test). On those tests, the 6800 (non-XT) results look more like what you've stated.

Of course, Phoronix results are Linux only, but I'm not generally concerned with Windows results because I don't use Windows at home for anything but tying in to work (and that only because the software that lets me answer my work desk phone from home only works on Windows). Since they've shifted us back to coming into the office, I don't even really do that anymore (I can do on-call work from home on Linux).

If you have Linux results from another source I'd like to add it to the sources I look at for reference.

Thanks.


Last edited by CFWhitman on 27 September 2021 at 1:09 pm UTC
Shmerl 27 Sep
Quoting: fearnflavio3440x1440

Cyberpunk with DLSS on Performance and everything on ultra I get around 50 to 60 fps at this resolution.
Without DLSS something around 30fps.

Yeah, at this resolution I'd imagine you might need upscaling with that card. I'm using 2560x1440 so didn't face the need for it so far.


Last edited by Shmerl on 27 September 2021 at 5:09 pm UTC
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