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Now that getting games that use BattlEye for anti-cheat working on Linux (either native or through Proton) is much easier, an Ubisoft rep suggests people post in their forum to show demand for it.

In response to a post on their official forum asking about Ubisoft hooking it all up, the rep mentioned they can pass the feedback onto developers and that hopefully "other players will reply here in favor of Proton support and the development team may then look to implement it". It's not exactly much and a pretty bog-standard response but it's a reply nonetheless and isn't being ignored.

The thing is, this is just about playing Rainbow Six Siege on Linux with Proton, and it's not likely the developer would do it just for that. Now though, with the Steam Deck that uses SteamOS 3, developers will have to get it working if they want their players to be able to access their games on it. Right now though, like everything else, it all depends on demand from users and how well the Steam Deck sells.


Pictured - Rainbow Six Siege on Steam.

In other Ubisoft related news, it appears that a new "Ubisoft Connect PC Client" has appeared as found by SteamDB's Pavel Djundik on Twitter so it appears that more Ubisoft games may come to Steam.

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Lofty 30 Nov, 2021
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonmIt's all about money to all of them, There's nothing wrong with that.

Disagree.


Quoting: mirvIf Ubisoft really wanted to do something, they'd stop internal employee abuse. Let's not forget what they put the actual devs through to make these games, or just because they can. Ubisoft has to earn my support, starting with removal of company culture of abuse. Then they can talk about earning my support for their games.

Agree.


Doesn't matter if you disagree or not, it's fact of the matter.

In your opinion. I agree companies exist to make money, that much is obvious. I don't agree with your added assessment that there is nothing morally wrong with the endless pursuit of money over everything else.

When it comes to you playing games on an OS that isn't really important to the world. You're trying to compare charity to supporting a game on an OS. They're not at all the same thing.

I understand your perspective, Im merely pointing out that i don't agree with your statement that there is 'nothing wrong' with only existing to make money..regardless of this thread's topic. That maybe the way of the world but you made the claim (and you are free to do so) that there is nothing wrong with that, i disagree.
jasonm 30 Nov, 2021
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonmIt's all about money to all of them, There's nothing wrong with that.

Disagree.


Quoting: mirvIf Ubisoft really wanted to do something, they'd stop internal employee abuse. Let's not forget what they put the actual devs through to make these games, or just because they can. Ubisoft has to earn my support, starting with removal of company culture of abuse. Then they can talk about earning my support for their games.

Agree.


Doesn't matter if you disagree or not, it's fact of the matter.

In your opinion. I agree companies exist to make money, that much is obvious. I don't agree with your added assessment that there is nothing morally wrong with the endless pursuit of money over everything else.

When it comes to you playing games on an OS that isn't really important to the world. You're trying to compare charity to supporting a game on an OS. They're not at all the same thing.

I understand your perspective, Im merely pointing out that i don't agree with your statement that there is 'nothing wrong' with only existing to make money..regardless of this thread's topic. That maybe the way of the world but you made the claim (and you are free to do so) that there is nothing wrong with that, i disagree.

What I'm saying is that you're taking my comment out of context. My comment was in regards to this game being supported on Proton. You can paraphrase words and add them to what I said to make it seem like I said something I didn't. But that's just you making things up in your head about what I said, not actually what I really said.


Last edited by jasonm on 30 November 2021 at 9:46 pm UTC
Lofty 30 Nov, 2021
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonmIt's all about money to all of them, There's nothing wrong with that.

Disagree.


Quoting: mirvIf Ubisoft really wanted to do something, they'd stop internal employee abuse. Let's not forget what they put the actual devs through to make these games, or just because they can. Ubisoft has to earn my support, starting with removal of company culture of abuse. Then they can talk about earning my support for their games.

Agree.


Doesn't matter if you disagree or not, it's fact of the matter.

In your opinion. I agree companies exist to make money, that much is obvious. I don't agree with your added assessment that there is nothing morally wrong with the endless pursuit of money over everything else.

When it comes to you playing games on an OS that isn't really important to the world. You're trying to compare charity to supporting a game on an OS. They're not at all the same thing.

I understand your perspective, Im merely pointing out that i don't agree with your statement that there is 'nothing wrong' with only existing to make money..regardless of this thread's topic. That maybe the way of the world but you made the claim (and you are free to do so) that there is nothing wrong with that, i disagree.

What I'm saying is that you're taking my comment out of context. My comment was in regards to this game being supported on Proton. You can paraphrase words and add them to what I said to make it seem like I said something I didn't. But that's just you making things up in your head about what I said.

Im just replying to what you wrote. But if i missed or took your comment out of context then my apologies.
jasonm 30 Nov, 2021
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonmIt's all about money to all of them, There's nothing wrong with that.

Disagree.


Quoting: mirvIf Ubisoft really wanted to do something, they'd stop internal employee abuse. Let's not forget what they put the actual devs through to make these games, or just because they can. Ubisoft has to earn my support, starting with removal of company culture of abuse. Then they can talk about earning my support for their games.

Agree.


Doesn't matter if you disagree or not, it's fact of the matter.

In your opinion. I agree companies exist to make money, that much is obvious. I don't agree with your added assessment that there is nothing morally wrong with the endless pursuit of money over everything else.

When it comes to you playing games on an OS that isn't really important to the world. You're trying to compare charity to supporting a game on an OS. They're not at all the same thing.

I understand your perspective, Im merely pointing out that i don't agree with your statement that there is 'nothing wrong' with only existing to make money..regardless of this thread's topic. That maybe the way of the world but you made the claim (and you are free to do so) that there is nothing wrong with that, i disagree.

What I'm saying is that you're taking my comment out of context. My comment was in regards to this game being supported on Proton. You can paraphrase words and add them to what I said to make it seem like I said something I didn't. But that's just you making things up in your head about what I said.

Im just replying to what you wrote. But if i missed or took your comment out of context then my apologies.

Here is my actual quote: "It's all about money to all of them, including Valve. Valve thankfully is building out Proton the right way, but it's due to money, not simply a love of Linux. There's nothing wrong with that."

This is in direct relation to games being ported to Linux. It had nothing to do with any other industry or situation. I feel I was pretty specific about what I meant by what I said.
Lofty 30 Nov, 2021
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonmIt's all about money to all of them, There's nothing wrong with that.

Disagree.


Quoting: mirvIf Ubisoft really wanted to do something, they'd stop internal employee abuse. Let's not forget what they put the actual devs through to make these games, or just because they can. Ubisoft has to earn my support, starting with removal of company culture of abuse. Then they can talk about earning my support for their games.

Agree.


Doesn't matter if you disagree or not, it's fact of the matter.

In your opinion. I agree companies exist to make money, that much is obvious. I don't agree with your added assessment that there is nothing morally wrong with the endless pursuit of money over everything else.

When it comes to you playing games on an OS that isn't really important to the world. You're trying to compare charity to supporting a game on an OS. They're not at all the same thing.

I understand your perspective, Im merely pointing out that i don't agree with your statement that there is 'nothing wrong' with only existing to make money..regardless of this thread's topic. That maybe the way of the world but you made the claim (and you are free to do so) that there is nothing wrong with that, i disagree.

What I'm saying is that you're taking my comment out of context. My comment was in regards to this game being supported on Proton. You can paraphrase words and add them to what I said to make it seem like I said something I didn't. But that's just you making things up in your head about what I said.

Im just replying to what you wrote. But if i missed or took your comment out of context then my apologies.

Here is my actual quote: "It's all about money to all of them, including Valve. Valve thankfully is building out Proton the right way, but it's due to money, not simply a love of Linux. There's nothing wrong with that."

This is in direct relation to games being ported to Linux. It had nothing to do with any other industry or situation. I feel I was pretty specific about what I meant by what I said.

I still stand by what I wrote. But at this point I have no desire to cludge up the forum going round & round in circles, and as i already offered apologies for missing any other context then there's nothing more for me to add.
jasonm 30 Nov, 2021
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonm
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonmIt's all about money to all of them, There's nothing wrong with that.

Disagree.


Quoting: mirvIf Ubisoft really wanted to do something, they'd stop internal employee abuse. Let's not forget what they put the actual devs through to make these games, or just because they can. Ubisoft has to earn my support, starting with removal of company culture of abuse. Then they can talk about earning my support for their games.

Agree.


Doesn't matter if you disagree or not, it's fact of the matter.

In your opinion. I agree companies exist to make money, that much is obvious. I don't agree with your added assessment that there is nothing morally wrong with the endless pursuit of money over everything else.

When it comes to you playing games on an OS that isn't really important to the world. You're trying to compare charity to supporting a game on an OS. They're not at all the same thing.

I understand your perspective, Im merely pointing out that i don't agree with your statement that there is 'nothing wrong' with only existing to make money..regardless of this thread's topic. That maybe the way of the world but you made the claim (and you are free to do so) that there is nothing wrong with that, i disagree.

What I'm saying is that you're taking my comment out of context. My comment was in regards to this game being supported on Proton. You can paraphrase words and add them to what I said to make it seem like I said something I didn't. But that's just you making things up in your head about what I said.

Im just replying to what you wrote. But if i missed or took your comment out of context then my apologies.

Here is my actual quote: "It's all about money to all of them, including Valve. Valve thankfully is building out Proton the right way, but it's due to money, not simply a love of Linux. There's nothing wrong with that."

This is in direct relation to games being ported to Linux. It had nothing to do with any other industry or situation. I feel I was pretty specific about what I meant by what I said.

I still stand by what I wrote. But at this point I have no desire to cludge up the forum going round & round in circles, and as i already offered apologies for missing any other context then there's nothing more for me to add.

Why are you getting so defensive? I was explaining. I only had the desire to cludge up the forum because you said I said something I didn't.
Lofty 30 Nov, 2021
Quoting: jasonmWhy are you getting so defensive? I was explaining. I only had the desire to cludge up the forum because you said I said something I didn't.

If you expand my last reply to you i placed in bold your exact quote and still stand by what i said, in full exactly as you have written without any editing. Not defensive, it just seems silly to continue at this point.
jasonm 30 Nov, 2021
Quoting: Lofty
Quoting: jasonmWhy are you getting so defensive? I was explaining. I only had the desire to cludge up the forum because you said I said something I didn't.

If you expand my last reply to you i placed in bold your exact quote and still stand by what i said, in full exactly as you have written without any editing. Not defensive, it just seems silly to continue at this point.

Yup
elmapul 30 Nov, 2021
supporting steam deck is not so simple.

sure they can fill in an e-mail and send, but then what happens if the anti cheat for linux isnt that good and the game get flooded with cheaters as result?
or if it cause aditional bugs that they have to fix?

if they arent sure about the demand, there is no point in supporting it, its a harsh reality.

and no, asking people to ask then in a forum is not to meassure the exact demmand for it, most of people dont interact with the foruns of every game they play.

its just to get an sample base.

as for stadia, not only google paid then for stadia, but stadia by nature is almost cheat proof.


Last edited by elmapul on 30 November 2021 at 11:44 pm UTC
randyl 1 Dec, 2021
Quoting: CatKiller
Quoting: randylYou know what's silly? The 1 - 2% asking for any game support or accommodation at all, while feeling entirely entitled to being treated equally.
Of course they should be treated equally. Are games companies charging Linux users 94% less than Windows users? Or Mac users 90% less than Windows users? And the idea that minority groups should be treated worse because they're a minority is... like... really bad.
Okay, let's not conflate choices in tech platforms with bona fide minority demographics and coopt those social struggles. This issue is not even in the same realm and it is incredibly disingenuous to imply such. This demand for equal treatment is a business case not a social marginalization case. And we're also talking about entertainment software not life critical systems. These are first world problems we're dealing with.

A small minority of desktop tech platform users desire a business to spend money and time on them as the other 98% who are footing the bill. This isn't social justice, it's business.

These companies are selling a product on supported platforms and that is it, just like all other commercial software or services. What these businesses like Ubisoft are asking is that this small Linux gaming minority to make a case that doing business with them will make sense. They want to know the revenue and success will outweigh the risks and costs. Linux Land is a very fluid and variable platform. Windows, Xbox, iOS, PlayStation, and Switch are stable, predictable, and fairly slow to change while providing fairly decent legacy support. Linux doesn't have an OS face (distro) that is a default that offers those features. It makes developing for the Linux desktop a lot less attractive and certain than those other platforms.

By all means ignore their request if it doesn't sit right with you, but I think that will just end up with them declining to participate. The question they're asking is "Why should we support this?". So ask yourself that and try and give them an answer they don't want to refuse. That's all I'm really saying. Be more inviting and accommodating and try working with these companies if you want to do business with them.
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