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Sorry Arch (EndeavourOS), it's not working out any more and hello Fedora

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There comes a time when everyone has to sit and think about what they use on their PC, especially if you're on Linux. For me, Arch Linux (via EndeavourOS) just wasn't working out any more and so I've moved to Fedora.

While I was reasonably happy with Arch Linux, it's just not stable enough for me personally. It's a very subjective thing of course, and highly dependent on what hardware you use — along with how often you update. For me, it just messed things up a bit too often, and last night was the final straw.

I updated either that day, or the day before, and just before a livestream was due to start, my SteelSeries headset no longer worked. No matter what I tried, following guide after guide about PipeWire, nothing helped. Just this weird and very quiet electrical static noise whenever I tried piping audio to it. Eventually it worked again by some downgrading, plus random hotplugging and testing it on a Windows machine for a sanity check and it started somewhat working again. My Microphone was another issue, at the same time it decided to be ridiculously quiet for no apparent reason I could see so there were wider problems. I had enough, I had work to do and after hours of hair-pulling — hello from Fedora.

Fedora's KDE Spin

Thankfully, with the likes of Flathub / Flatpak packages and how far along apps like Discover have come along for installing packages and setting things up, there's not a whole lot to learn. It's been a very long time since I used Fedora, and it was one of my first Linux distributions I tried sticking with back when it was "Fedora Core" and wow — it's always surprising to see how far we've come as a platform for doing anything.

Fedora does come with some of its own issues, like NVIDIA drivers being a nuisance to install, which they definitely should improve. If other distributions can do one-click or one-line installs, I'm sure they could do it too. However, it's just another point towards me swapping to AMD when prices settle, or perhaps Intel when Arc properly launches for desktop. I also need to figure out why Dropbox won't load on startup, some little things like that.

Anyway, are you really a Linux nerd if you don't distro-hop at least once a year? Jokes aside, I look forward to seeing why people keep recommending Fedora nowadays as a stable distribution, let's see how long it takes me to break it.

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mr-victory Apr 8, 2022
Quoting: EikeNext year I'm on Debian for a quarter of a century.

Need to find out the exact date. :D

Imagine upgrading a Win95 install all the way to Win10!
nenoro Apr 8, 2022
Liam: i leave systemD for systemD

Oh come on liam join gentoo we have cookies
Raaben Apr 8, 2022
Welcome to the club! I also used to use Arch (for many years) but managed to settle down with Fedora. Still love Arch and miss some of it, but Fedora always felt "close enough" while giving me an easy sane setup and maintenance.
Eike Apr 8, 2022
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Quoting: mr-victory
Quoting: EikeNext year I'm on Debian for a quarter of a century.

Need to find out the exact date. :D

Imagine upgrading a Win95 install all the way to Win10!

Actual upgrading unfortunately (or? dunno) lasted "only" about 15 years though.
Talked about it in the forum lately:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/5150/
STiAT Apr 8, 2022
If you're on Nvidia, expect the drivers to break now and then in fedora.

Using it since January, and nvidia akmod broke once due to kernel changes required a new nvidia driver and fedora didn't give a damn and rpmfusion was a day late or so.

But you could still boot the old kernel and it worked.

I had issues with discover actually not treating system updates properly and rebooting several times since it just didn't install all packages downloaded. That's far better in Gnome, no idea if that's fixed by now since I still try to give Gnome a fair chance :-).

For Nvidia and the rpmfusion: in Gnome there was a start screen where you enabled them with a click and just had to install akmod-nvidia and kernel-devel, which for some reason did not get installed by akmod but it requires it.

Otherwise I'm pretty satisfied with Fedora. I'd prefer official nvidia support too, but it is how it is.


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Samsai Apr 8, 2022
Quoting: nenoroLiam: i leave systemD for systemD

Oh come on liam join gentoo we have cookies
Liam has in the past nuked his system by compiling OBS and you suggest he use Gentoo? Pretty bold, if you ask me. :P
razing32 Apr 8, 2022
Quoting: Samsai
Quoting: nenoroLiam: i leave systemD for systemD

Oh come on liam join gentoo we have cookies
Liam has in the past nuked his system by compiling OBS and you suggest he use Gentoo? Pretty bold, if you ask me. :P

I have to hear that story
Liam Dawe Apr 8, 2022
Quoting: razing32
Quoting: Samsai
Quoting: nenoroLiam: i leave systemD for systemD

Oh come on liam join gentoo we have cookies
Liam has in the past nuked his system by compiling OBS and you suggest he use Gentoo? Pretty bold, if you ask me. :P

I have to hear that story
Somewhere I followed a wrong command, didn't pay enough attention, stuff got removed that shouldn't and it all died. It was a learning experience to be sure and I've rarely compiled anything since :P. Flathub all the way.
Elvanex Apr 8, 2022
One nice thing with Fedora is their implementation of btrfs. Not only can you pool all your storage devices automatically during install, but they also enable dynamic compression by default, which saves a lot of storage. I have 2.5 TB in my computer, and without dynamic compression, I only had ~50 GB free after installing my steam library. With dynamic compression enabled however, and all the same things installed, I had ~500GB free. That's a solid 20% reduction! :) I wish the Steam Deck used it.
sourpuz Apr 8, 2022
Ah, I'm happy with Fedora, too. For me it was their clean implementation of Gnome, which I've somehow come to love.
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