EA has just recently given out more information on their upcoming EA AntiCheat (EAAC), not to be confused with Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC), because EA are apparently terribly at naming.
In their new Deep Dive, they went over various details about their new EAAC and how it will affect their games. The first big note is that it will be kernel-mode, which is usually something that doesn't play nicely (or at all) with Linux and so this could be some bad news for the Steam Deck too. Not only that, it's an anti-tamper tech too.
Take FIFA 22 for example, it's playable on Linux and has a "Playable" Steam Deck rating. However, FIFA 23 will be launching in October and guess what? It will have EA's new AntiCheat. So, this might mean it won't work at all.
It won't end up in every game from EA though, as they said in the post they will work with each studio to determine their needs. It also mentions for some titles they may only use "user-mode protections" (no kernel-level stuff) or just not have any at all.
A worrying trend though, with more and more anti-cheat going kernel-side which is almost always developed just for Windows. It's problematic for another reason though, like the recent issue with Genshin Impact where the anti-cheat driver was abused to disable anti-virus.
What do you think to this news?
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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I sure hope they don't retroactively add this junk to Rolo to the Rescue, but considering EA's track record of being one of humanity's worst enemies, I'm sure they will.
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I avoid EA like the plague. They'll never get a cent from me unless they drastically change their business practices and how they treat their employees.
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Quoting: itscalledrealityBut in reality GOG retired their Linux Galaxy efforts recently.
You mean, they finally admitted that they wouldn't lift a finger for the most requested feature?
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Quoting: Purple Library GuySome "they" did, and strive to continue its legacy, apparently with great success.Quoting: PenglingThey learned that Sony's still rich.Quoting: KimyrielleParticularly not when said band-aid solutions behave just like malware....Perhaps it's just me, but in my books they meet the exact definition of it. It's like nobody learned from the music industry's Windows rootkit nonsense 20-odd years ago, or something.
The other "they" still do what they did twenty years ago...
Quoting: WorMzyEDIT:Link intentionally broken
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Quoting: GuestSadly this is like a million other topics in society where the problem would be fixed real quick if people stopped buying/supporting crap. Anti-Cheat is also a decent chunk of why I won't buy online games anymore even if I ran Windows. It's an arms race of stupidity where the innocent are guilty and the guilty are guilty. Like a BDSM dungeon of idiots flogging their own genitals because master said so.I totally do not understand your statements, is like that you are saying "cheating online could be stopped if people do not buy crap games" (I suppose you are referring "crap" to games with anticheats). To me sounds like: "we can stop car accidents removing insurances"..or.. "stop criminals removing the police" Same for the next line... To me all this thread has been floated with no sense, hate and cheap slogan. I was just wondering, am I on reddit?
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Even if i used windows i would do anything before i would even consider letting EA-Crapware run at Kernellevel...
Good thing they don't really have anything relevant to offer anymore that is not riddled with bullshit like microtransactions anyway...
Good thing they don't really have anything relevant to offer anymore that is not riddled with bullshit like microtransactions anyway...
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Lot of people saying doesn't matter cause they don't play EA games and already hated EA anyway. I don't think I own any EA games either and not planning to get any. But in context, that is unfortunately somewhat beside the point. The point is, in putting some popular games off limits, could this blunt the growing wave of Steam Deck adoption?
I think probably not, on its own, as long as this doesn't either become a product they successfully sell for use in other games as well, and as long as it's not a harbinger of similar moves by other big game companies. But it's not a happy thing.
I think probably not, on its own, as long as this doesn't either become a product they successfully sell for use in other games as well, and as long as it's not a harbinger of similar moves by other big game companies. But it's not a happy thing.
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Quoting: PirolisiErm, no. It's pretty clear that nPHYN1T3 was saying that intrusive, rootkit-like anticheat "solutions" to cheating would not be used if people did not buy games containing them--game publishers would give in and find some more customer-friendly solutions if all their customers collectively refused to purchase such games.Quoting: GuestSadly this is like a million other topics in society where the problem would be fixed real quick if people stopped buying/supporting crap. Anti-Cheat is also a decent chunk of why I won't buy online games anymore even if I ran Windows. It's an arms race of stupidity where the innocent are guilty and the guilty are guilty. Like a BDSM dungeon of idiots flogging their own genitals because master said so.I totally do not understand your statements, is like that you are saying "cheating online could be stopped if people do not buy crap games" (I suppose you are referring "crap" to games with anticheats).
Which is true enough, if largely irrelevant to the real world, since nobody who complains to this effect ever proposes a mechanism for changing human nature enough to make that happen.
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BlackBloodRum Sep 14, 2022
So you won't be able to play the new FIFA game?
So? Just play the old one? Aside from the characters maybe adding 1 or 2 new players, my understanding is that in recent years every new FIFA game is basically the same thing re-released with a new player set.
Or even "The Sims 4". Look at the expansion packs, they're basically the same as what Sims 3 had
.
So it always appears to me that EA Games, Challenge Everything, split out a lot of "core content" into DLC so you have to keep paying again, and again, and again, and again. That and apparently it has a lot of bugs in their games?
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So? Just play the old one? Aside from the characters maybe adding 1 or 2 new players, my understanding is that in recent years every new FIFA game is basically the same thing re-released with a new player set.
Or even "The Sims 4". Look at the expansion packs, they're basically the same as what Sims 3 had
.So it always appears to me that EA Games, Challenge Everything, split out a lot of "core content" into DLC so you have to keep paying again, and again, and again, and again. That and apparently it has a lot of bugs in their games?
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TheRiddick Sep 14, 2022
I understand AntiCheat in very PVP games but don't see kernel level access for them to be reasonable solution. Basically their trying to automate the whole process which leaves gaping holes in peoples PC security.
Totally against single player games having anticheat.
The best solution for anticheat that I've seen is a active server+client side team that monitors exploits with basic AC software assisting.
The concept of a totally hands off approach for anticheat is leading us down a dark path where companies get full access to clients machines, recording keystrokes and every bit of meta data even when not playing any game.
Community needs to fight back and just not accept these tactics. I wish windows users were more aware of the dangers of giving corporations full access to their PC's (and lives) with no oversight... data leaks going to bring down so many peoples machines when these things go wrong (as we have seen already).
People need to stop shoulder shrugging their privacy rights away!
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Totally against single player games having anticheat.
The best solution for anticheat that I've seen is a active server+client side team that monitors exploits with basic AC software assisting.
The concept of a totally hands off approach for anticheat is leading us down a dark path where companies get full access to clients machines, recording keystrokes and every bit of meta data even when not playing any game.
Community needs to fight back and just not accept these tactics. I wish windows users were more aware of the dangers of giving corporations full access to their PC's (and lives) with no oversight... data leaks going to bring down so many peoples machines when these things go wrong (as we have seen already).
People need to stop shoulder shrugging their privacy rights away!
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