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Canonical want help testing their Steam snap package for Ubuntu

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Do you game on Ubuntu or one of their flavours like Kubuntu or Xubuntu? Canonical want your help in further testing of the Steam snap. For anyone confused: there's many different types of packages on Linux. There's deb, rpm, flatpak, snap, appimage and more. Snap is what Canonical (who make Ubuntu) are rolling with.

Writing on their official Discourse forum, developer Ken VanDine mentioned they're hoping to have the snap of Steam out of Early Access soon and available to everyone.

In the post VanDine mentioned they've been "working feverishly to resolve issues and ensure it works well" and testing has been done across "the most popular Steam titles which should ‘just work’ based on reports on ProtonDB". But now they want more people to get involved to give their reports on how games work.

Details on how to get involved can be seen in the forum post.

The overall feeling you get from looking online is that snaps aren't particularly popular. However, is it just a case of a few people shouting above the rest? VanDine answered a few of my questions on that and more in an interview with GOL last year.

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Koopacabras Mar 17
Quote"the most popular Steam titles which should ‘just work’ based on reports on ProtonDB"
I'm inferring from this that they are working hard on the "weak spot" that sandboxing always had, even flatpak which is a bit superior (imho) has some shortcomings with proton emulation. Personally I won't be using it, if valve provides a deb package I will use that instead. I can't remember but I think it has some issues regarding how linking and hard linking works on sandbox mode that makes proton go bonkers.
Maybe Im barking out the wrong tree, and this is already fixed, but back in the days when proton started, steam flatpak had all kinda of issues, related to sandboxing, even Proton GE didn't work, it was a bloody mess.
Tbh it's kinda of logic, because you are running an "emulation" app (proton) on top of sandboxing, I guess it makes everything more complex.


Last edited by Koopacabras on 17 March 2023 at 9:39 pm UTC
soulsource Mar 17
A Mozilla developer posted about Snap (and Flatpak) just recently, and I think it's a very interesting read.

Original thread:
https://fosstodon.org/@gabrielesvelto/109976029692454638

Follow-Up with links to the bug-reports:
https://fosstodon.org/@gabrielesvelto/109981179869984715
CatKiller Mar 17
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Quoting: soulsourceA Mozilla developer posted about Snap (and Flatpak) just recently, and I think it's a very interesting read.
Especially since it was Mozilla that asked Canonical to replace the repository version of Firefox with the snap.
sudoer Mar 17
Well done corp world... a container in a container. Unneccessary complexity for the sake of corp agendas. Does Proton even work with this.
Tuxee Mar 17
Quoting: sudoerWell done corp world... a container in a container. Unneccessary complexity for the sake of corp agendas. Does Proton even work with this.

What "agenda"?
 

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Koopacabras Mar 17
Quoting: sudoerWell done corp world... a container in a container. Unneccessary complexity for the sake of corp agendas. Does Proton even work with this.

ISV's ISV's !!

add Steve Ballmer meme
Quoting: Koopacabras
Quoting: sudoerWell done corp world... a container in a container. Unneccessary complexity for the sake of corp agendas. Does Proton even work with this.

ISV's ISV's !!

add Steve Ballmer meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs

(Fun fact, this video was uploaded 14 years ago... feel old?)
slaapliedje Mar 18
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Quoting: Tuxee
Quoting: sudoerWell done corp world... a container in a container. Unneccessary complexity for the sake of corp agendas. Does Proton even work with this.

What "agenda"?
Every corporation has an agenda... to make money. Canonical's best way to make money is to try to get as much vendor lock-in that they can, without pissing off the community enough that someone switches to a different distro. Snap and them being the only ones who can host a snap store is their method of lock-in.
CatKiller Mar 18
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Quoting: slaapliedjeEvery corporation has an agenda... to make money. Canonical's best way to make money is to try to get as much vendor lock-in that they can, without pissing off the community enough that someone switches to a different distro. Snap and them being the only ones who can host a snap store is their method of lock-in.
That's just nonsense. Canonical make zero money from desktop Ubuntu users. They make money, like Red Hat/IBM do, by offering paid support and services. Snaps make that hugely easier for their actual customers, and for themselves as maintainers. They might also have made money from the Ubuntu Phone, which snaps were largely created for, but they ran out of money before that could become a thing.

Snaps only come from one place to solve the discovery issue that PPAs have, and which Fedora users experience from flatpaks where they have access to some flatpaks but not all of them. All the snaps are available in one place - accessible by default for Ubuntu users and trivial to add for users of other distros (except Mint, who put up additional barriers in the way of user choice).
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