Valve have added a new rule to the Onboarding guide for game developers, noting that payment processors get a say in what stays on Steam.
Recently, a number of people noticed and posted across various Reddits that PayPal has been unavailable for days, so it's possible this is all coming from PayPal but nothing has been confirmed on that.
On Steamworks the new rule is noted under the "What you shouldn’t publish on Steam" heading:
Content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors and related card networks and banks, or internet network providers. In particular, certain kinds of adult only content.
SteamDB noticed this, and also noted in a Bluesky thread how numerous incest games had been removed:
That's a very specific type of game removal but could only be the beginning of a wider crackdown on the types of adult content allowed on Steam.
Valve certainly aren't the first to have this happen. Patreon has also seen issues with payment processors like PayPal in the past with adult content. So, it's not really a surprise that this has happened, the surprise to me is that payment processors haven't come down on Valve sooner for all these types of games because they really don't like their services being used for it. It's not like Valve have a choice in this either, they could fight it but it would probably be a lot more costly than it's worth to them.
I've asked Valve to provide a comment and will update if they reply but it's unlikely they will in cases like this.
What are your thoughts on this?
Ultimately, Paypal probably shouldn't exist. There should be a secure international payment system run by an international body like the UN or some consortium of governments, that lets you use your money on the internet straight from your bank account. People have become dependent on the internet as a way to buy things they need--my dad gets his groceries that way because he's old and mostly blind so it's very hard to go to the grocery store. It's not a frill, it's important, and I see no reason why some private gatekeeper should be skimming fees off every transaction.
Sure some people may be squicked out by the themes in them, but it's better for society for people 'in to' such content to engage with interactive fantasy for catharsis and moderating such wants instead of acting out on real humans - "violent video games" like DOOM and QUAKE had certain people in the 90's acting out in Moral Panics, but there's evidence to show having such games as an outlet reduces the chance of someone acting out violence on people around them by giving them a grounding outlet to work through their emotions and thoughts in a world of bits and bytes.
Corporations such as Banks and Payment Processors should have NO SAY in how people use their money online, it should be up to the person making the payment to decide on if to buy something that may or may not have involved harming real humans during its creation or transport.
Just like how it should be up to the parent of a child if certain types of video games are allowed in the house, and not a retail company or government-of-the-day provided the game has passed the independent national rating board (see: Karen's trying to pressure retail chains in to removing GTA 5 from store shelves in Australia despite the R18+ rating from the OFLC/ACB meaning it passed national government regulation) or otherwise has a rating provided by a third party that is standardised (see: ESRB and IARC).
Additionally;
I hate Plagarised Information Synthesis System content (LLM's are Artificial, but not "Intelligent") as a way for companies to line their pockets and shaft human creators, but this is the wrong way to go about dealing with it for anybody considering using such a censorship tactic to quash the Slop.
If an US payment service says you can‘t play this game, nobody can.
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Last edited by Liemaeu on 17 Jul 2025 at 5:29 am UTC
While i think this is quite comfortable from a parents standpoint, i am not naive enough to think that this is a productive thing. As a parent you have to try to somehow filter some of the worst internet content for your kids. And if you have put a lot of thought in it, you realize how... futile it is in the end. Smart kids always find a way around your fences, and you have to take this hit with a knowing smile.
So, no, i do not like the influence of payment processors in my little steam world. Go play somewhere else. (Insert Monty Pythony Lion Tamer Joke reference here)
Wow... i did not know all this existed on steam, living in my TF2-Pyroesque vision of Germanylands Great Filter.Like most people worldwide, you wouldn't have been able to view these games anyways, until you manually allow them in the 'show Adult games' filter on Steam. I didn't know they were that bad either and I'm not in Europe.
Last edited by Pyrate on 17 Jul 2025 at 6:48 am UTC