KDE officially release the first alpha of KDE Linux their new reference implementation OS

Immutable base seems like a great idea - I spend way too much time trying to recover from a broken update and with immutable base it's just a matter of reverting to the previous image...

Some thoughts...

- Snaps: No thanks, I don't want to receive packages from a proprietary source.
- No Fcitx: Sorry, but there are more native Chinese speakers than native English speakers, having an IME is not an excessive luxury (and please, don't use Ibus, that garbage is horrible).
- Random CLI utilities like Duf, Mcfly: Frankly, quite pointless.
- Nano: Vim is already selected and is just better, no point in adding nano.

But most importantly: an immutable OS based on Arch? Absolutely lovely, if the KDE devs could just reach out to the Arkane Linux team to collaborate it could be an absolute game changer.

I wish them all the success there is.

I hope this will be the future distro to recommend!

i use KDE on every machine and distro i have so very excited by this, thanks for the updates on this project

_wogtek

Immutable base seems like a great idea - I spend way too much time trying to recover from a broken update...

Either you are doing something horribly wrong, or you need to find a better distro. I haven't had my operating system break doing a simple update since I stopped using Gentoo two-decades ago, which, at the time, was notorious for that sort of thing.

@Mountain Man

Either you are doing something horribly wrong, or you need to find a better distro. I haven't had my operating system break doing a simple update since I stopped using Gentoo two-decades ago, which, at the time, was notorious for that sort of thing.

It was a thing with Arch about 5-10ish years ago (afterwards I gave up on Arch/Linux altogether for a while).
And just the other day upgrading Debian to Trixie on RPi failed and had to juggle some libs over ssh... luckily I was able to recover without the reinstal but meh.

All in all - immutable distro solve the issue just fine and I could put Linux on my father machine without the worry that something would break that simple "restore previous version" wouldn't fix...

@_wojtek

All in all - immutable distro solve the issue just fine and I could put Linux on my father machine without the worry that something would break that simple "restore previous version" wouldn't fix...

You can always do traditional backups or file system level snapshots without resorting to full-blown immutable distributions. But to each their own.

Immutable might be fine for a single-purpose OS like SteamOS but it felt like jumping through hoops just to get basic packages installed and added to PATH without writing to root. Using a mutable distro with BTRFS snapshots has been the best of both worlds for me, I get to modify and install to root as I please and whenever anything goes wrong I just revert back to a previous snapshot and get a working system again.

- No Fcitx: Sorry, but there are more native Chinese speakers than native English speakers, having an IME is not an excessive luxury (and please, don't use Ibus, that garbage is horrible).

I'm glad someone else gets it. I swear the only reason it sticks around is because the people who call the shots on most distros speak non-IME languages like English and German to which IBus "gets the job done". If you speak a language that requires an IME (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc.) then it's just an painfully buggy experience and you'd be much better off with Fcitx 99.9% of the time.

So what happens to KDE Neon? The site is still up and telling people to download it. Shouldn't they just totally take that down if there's really no support (because it's all going to this new "KDE Linux") ...?

also ... that name. So generic, and confusing. Every single distro out there can be a "kde linux" by just simply using kde on it.

I'm glad KDE has their own in-house distro, there's just so many questions.


Last edited by R Daneel Olivaw on 8 Sep 2025 at 3:57 pm UTC

Loving the wise (and user friendly) approach of including both Snaps and Flatpaks (and AFAIK also AppImage). This is the way in an immutable modern system for wide and simple software availability via Discover store. Normal users couldn't care less about philosophies or whatever. Frankly, it's most people who don't want to waste time and just want their apps effortlessly (and sandboxing provides a more secure way without knowing)

I think it's good that the KDE project is working on fully featured operating system. I'm less excited about the decision to use Arch. Nothing against Arch in general but I just tend to prefer other distro's.

I'm less concerned with snap/flatpaks/etc. to be honest. They aren't my favorite but I can see the industry and other groups moving to them. They make tools approachable for a general audience and I think that is mostly a good thing. The Linux community has been mostly shielded from bad actors and viruses. Sure we've had a few but nothing at the scale of the Windows community. Newer tools change that for sure, but I don't think they are necessarily a five-alarm fire.

With all the new users, the Windows 10 stuff, etc. it makes sense that there are going to be brand new solutions. It's cool the community is evolving.

Using a mutable distro with BTRFS snapshots has been the best of both worlds for me

Same I'm just on EndeavourOS with BTRFS + snapshots and I haven't had any issues on top of that for years 0:

I think it's good that the KDE project is working on fully featured operating system. I'm less excited about the decision to use Arch. Nothing against Arch in general but I just tend to prefer other distro's.

I'm less concerned with snap/flatpaks/etc. to be honest. They aren't my favorite but I can see the industry and other groups moving to them. They make tools approachable for a general audience and I think that is mostly a good thing. The Linux community has been mostly shielded from bad actors and viruses. Sure we've had a few but nothing at the scale of the Windows community. Newer tools change that for sure, but I don't think they are necessarily a five-alarm fire.

With all the new users, the Windows 10 stuff, etc. it makes sense that there are going to be brand new solutions. It's cool the community is evolving.

I agree with you. However with a immutable distro the base is "not that important" for the user as they don't really interact with it anyway. I can see why KDE chose Arch. Bleeding-edge packages, synergies with Valve and Steam OS and just generally Arch having wind in it's sails atm.

I love an immutable distro with Flatpaks. Snaps aren't my thing, but they only included the option; it's not like Ubuntu.

If you need packages outside Flathub, then they're not for you. However, if you're someone like me who likes Flatpak and can get everything he needs from there, immutable is great. Ever since I switched to Bazzite + Aurora, I don't have to think about anything. Everything just works, no stability issues whatsoever.

That said, I do question why KDE installed Dolphin as a Flatpak rather than baking it into the OS image. In my opinion, the file manager is best installed as a native package. SteamOS, Bazzite and Aurora all do this; yet, KDE went with the Dolphin Flatpak. I hope that doesn't cause issues.