For those of you still rocking xorg rather than Wayland, there's a new release out that should hopefully fix up some issues you may have been seeing. There was a security advisory back in October for more issues that were fixed, and a small bug-fix after that - so this release follows on from those.
What's changed in this release? From the release announcement:
The changes being reverted here are part of a series of changes previously backported in the stable branch, yet these are not actual fixes to address bugs found in the stable branch, while those changes introduced regressions with reverse PRIME with the NVIDIA closed-source driver, issues with 10-bit output with the AMDGPU driver and reduced performance with the AMDGPU driver.
The changes:
Olivier Fourdan (6):
Revert "glamor: reject configs using unsupported rgbBits size"
Revert "glamor_egl: add support of GlxVendorLibrary option"
Revert "xorg: initialize glamor provider"
Revert "glamor: Lift the GLX EGL backend from Xwayland"
Revert "glamor: add glvnd_vendor private"
xserver 21.1.21
Your distribution (if it still packages xorg) should hopefully pull in the update sometime soon.
For those of you still rocking xorg rather than WaylandTechnically we ALL use xorg to run games without "native" Wayland compatibility, right?
- XFCE is not yet compatible with Wayland, will be compatible in next version
- I need a stable gaming experience
Is wayland mature today for a day by day use and for a gamer config?
I'm using a AMD GPU.
Quoting: hardpenguinTechnically we ALL use xorg to run games without "native" Wayland compatibility, right?How so? Can you explain this further?
Quoting: legluondunetIs wayland mature today for a day by day use and for a gamer config?Very select games have problems (Alien: Isolation crashes on startup; X4: Foundations doesn't display its cursor when using controller due to Wayland's broken virtual cursor functionality), but by and large the vast, VAST majority of games work, and games using Proton are always functionally identical on Wayland
Last edited by ScottCarammell on 25 Nov 2025 at 1:35 pm UTC
Quoting: ScottCarammellQuoting: legluondunetIs wayland mature today for a day by day use and for a gamer config?Alien: Isolation crashes on startup
I played Alien: Isolation start to finish on Wayland last year. Could be something else youre facing, or a recent regression.
Quoting: Purple Library GuyI'll switch when Mint does; I'm vaguely hoping that will be soon, but I haven't had any problems with X11.
The only thing I really miss on Mint is actually Plasma 6.
Quoting: LucaQuoting: Purple Library GuyI'll switch when Mint does; I'm vaguely hoping that will be soon, but I haven't had any problems with X11.
The only thing I really miss on Mint is actually Plasma 6.
Lol. I get that. Still, I've been pretty happy with the Cinnamon edition. I find the DE to be pretty robust and flexible, with a lot of modern features. I only wish I could find a decent, stable tray applet for displaying CPU and GPU temperatures. XFCE has an excellent one.
In reality, I'll switch to Wayland eventually, but not until I am either forced (by X breaking or something?) or I build a new rig (and since I just built one, probably 5 more years).
I've now read about Wayland for 15 years, and it still has basic issues according to conjecture.
Viva La X
More Choices, More Better.
Technically we ALL use xorg to run games without "native" Wayland compatibility, right?
How so? Can you explain this further?
@Chrisznix - old Linux games rely on xorg for display and a "nested" version of xorg is being launched in Wayland for them when they launch
Quoting: PyrateUsing AMD for my PC. Consistently crashed on my PC and on Steam Deck in gaming mode (both wayland), but worked fine on those same systems on X11 and desktop mode (both x11). This has been the case since the Steam Deck launched and is why it uses Proton by default. I feel confident in calling it a Wayland-origin issue.Quoting: ScottCarammellQuoting: legluondunetIs wayland mature today for a day by day use and for a gamer config?Alien: Isolation crashes on startup
I played Alien: Isolation start to finish on Wayland last year. Could be something else youre facing, or a recent regression.
Last edited by ScottCarammell on 26 Nov 2025 at 12:39 pm UTC




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