In the ongoing crazy saga of the internet getting gated behind new age verification laws, Discord are putting on the brakes temporarily.
Writing in a new blog post Discord CTO & Co-Founder Stanislav Vishnevskiy mentioned they "knew this rollout was going to be controversial" and that "In hindsight, we should have provided more detail about our intentions and how the process works" and that with the way it was explained resulting in people thinking everyone had to go through age checks that they "failed at our most basic job: clearly explaining what we're doing and why".
For regions where it is already law that they have to do age checks, because they count as social media, the current rules will be sticking. So that's the UK, Australia and soon Brazil too. And naturally, as more countries roll out these required age checks - those will be forced as well.
Vishnevskiy mentions again, that "For 90%+ of users, nothing changes. Most users never access age-restricted content or change their default safety settings". There's only specific times it will be needed to access certain content and options.
For now, the rest of the world won't have to do anything at all. The global rollout will only happen once these points have been met:
- Adding more verification options. We already had alternatives in development, including credit card verification. We’ll complete and expand those before scaling globally so you have more options you’re comfortable with.
- Vendor transparency. We’ll document every verification vendor and their practices on our website, and make it clear in the product who each vendor is. We’ve also set a new requirement: any partner offering facial age estimation must perform it entirely on-device. If they don’t meet that bar, we won’t work with them.
- A new spoiler channel option. We know many communities use age-restricted channels not for adult content, but for topics people prefer to engage with on their own terms: spoilers, politics, and heavier conversations. We’re building a dedicated spoiler channel option so communities don’t have to age-gate their server just to give members that choice.
- A technical blog post before global launch. We’ll publish a detailed post explaining how our automatic age determination systems work, including the signal categories and privacy constraints. So you can evaluate our approach for yourselves.
- Age assurance data in our transparency reports. We’ll include how many users were asked to verify, what methods they used, and how often our automated systems handled it without any user action.
Discord also recently open sourced Osprey, a safety tool that other platforms can now use that you can check out on GitHub and read more in the blog post for that.
The fact is - every platform that's a certain size will end up having to do something like this. As I've said previously - it's not a Discord only problem, it's an issue with the laws being passed like the UK Online Safety Act. Transparency is going to be the key to get it right - we deserve to know exactly who will be scanning us and exactly what they will be doing with the data. If you choose to go through with it that is.
Just FYI
Hopefully this is the last straw that gives some push to migrating over to alternatives like Fluxer, which seems like the best one so far, even if it's under heavy server load right now. Fluxer is open-source and self-hostable which makes it a great option for FOSS communities and I hope it will eventually gain critical mass.
https://www.pcgamer.com/software/security/security-researchers-claim-persona-the-provider-behind-discords-uk-age-verification-experiment-performs-269-individual-verification-checks-on-user-data-including-those-for-terrorism-and-espionage/
https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/
https://itsfoss.com/news/colorado-age-attestation-bill/
So it's likely only a matter of time before some dunce thinks of mandating face scans for your PC or phone, but I honestly can't think of a way that could even work on Linux. Like, which part of a Linux distro would implement it? The kernel can't so it'd have to be a userspace thing. The desktop environments are only launched at the end of the boot process so they don't prevent you from accessing the internet from a TTY. The init system, the bootloader? 😅
This announcement should be taken the same as "Google backed away from locking down Android!"
Because, according to F-Droid, that never actually happened.
First we have our identity verified at the bank with a valid ID like a drivers license, passport etc, get a BankID token connected to our person verified by the bank and the state, this has been a thing for many years now
Using this for discord would sort of work like this: Discord could ask for you to verify your age using the BankID api, I scan the QR code with my phone, use my secret code on the app to verify that I am who I say I am, the BankID system verifies my the token on my phone and identity in their system in conjunction with the code I typed in, and then tells Discord that yes, this person is an adult and who they say they are through a trusted system
Discord never needs to see my ID, they never get any more info than needed, only that yes, I am of adult age, let me use the system
At least that is how I think it would work
"failed at our most basic job: clearly explaining what we're doing and why".Really? That's their most basic job? I might have thought making the software good would be their most basic job, but apparently that's just me.




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