I'm wondering the same thing. It makes no sense.

both have their pro's and cons. while mumble is nice the server setup is trickier, specially permissions. ts3 has individual voice sliders for people, so if someone is louder or quieter, you can easily adjust his/her volume.
on the other side, mumble has unlimited slots, while teamspeak free version has 32 max slots (which is mostly enough, unless you have super big community)
also mumble has audio ducking option, for those who use it, ts3 doesnt afaik.

in the end.. who cares if its open or closed, if it works natively and gets the job done.
both have their place. I personally use them both. Lately teamspeak3 more due the volume sliders.

Quoting: Xpanderin the end.. who cares if its open or closed, if it works natively and gets the job done.

I do. For me openness is important. Not only because of [paranoid mode]who knows what is going on while the program is running[/paranoid mode], which is important, but not the most. Openness is important because in the long run is what allows to spread knowledge, helps to standards, it's more secure, more featured, faster...

In the end, why do we use linux?

If there is an open alternative to a program, I tend to use the open one, and for me, and this is just a humble opinion, it's quite sad that a linux community uses a closed source program when there are open alternatives that, as you said, get the work done.

What is the point of use linux then?

Quoting: serjorIn the end, why do we use linux?

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What is the point of use linux then?

why i use linux is because of the ways i can customize it for my liking, i dont really care whats under the hood, if it works for my needs i use it, be it open or closed, doesnt matter for me - its the choice between what gets the job done.

bit offtopic now but like i said, both of them have pros and cons.

edit: forgot to mention that i dont dig inside the code, so i wouldnt understand what that open program is doing behind my back anyway

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Quoting: serjorIn the end, why do we use linux?

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What is the point of use linux then?

why i use linux is because of the ways i can customize it for my liking, i dont really care whats under the hood, if it works for my needs i use it, be it open or closed, doesnt matter for me - its the choice between what gets the job done.

bit offtopic now but like i said, both of them have pros and cons.

edit: forgot to mention that i dont dig inside the code, so i wouldnt understand what that open program is doing behind my back anyway

Just to echo xpander here, i am also here for the customization. I don't care about the code a lot of the time either, as i don't dig into Linux Kernel, Mumble or any source so it makes no difference to me.

As for the topic at hand: teamspeak is what I am familiar with, volume per-person is also essential.

Well, I'd say that not coding doesn't mean that profits of open source software go away. Being able to audit the source code should be a must, even the final user doesn't know a bit about coding (and this point of the discussion is, for me, part of the topic. The question not was only from a technical point of view, a philosophical one too).

Regarding volume-per-person: http://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/FAQ#Can_I_change_to_volume_of_a_specific_user.3F
I'm not a power user of voip programs like ts or mumble, I'd used mumble (server setup and client usage) to use it with a friend from time to time, so I don't have a valid background about this, but, using AGC wouldn't be even better?
If I've understood correctly, the program adjust all incoming voices an sets the same volume to all of them. Just to know.

Quoting: serjorWell, I'd say that not coding doesn't mean that profits of open source software go away. Being able to audit the source code should be a must, even the final user doesn't know a bit about coding (and this point of the discussion is, for me, part of the topic. The question not was only from a technical point of view, a philosophical one too).

Regarding volume-per-person: http://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/FAQ#Can_I_change_to_volume_of_a_specific_user.3F
I'm not a power user of voip programs like ts or mumble, I'd used mumble (server setup and client usage) to use it with a friend from time to time, so I don't have a valid background about this, but, using AGC wouldn't be even better?
If I've understood correctly, the program adjust all incoming voices an sets the same volume to all of them. Just to know.

AGC is all nice on paper but it just doesnt work always, there are people who still are super quiet or louder than others

also i'm not going to argue with you over the open or closed. i made my points, you made yours...

Quoting: Xpander

Quoting: serjorWell, I'd say that not coding doesn't mean that profits of open source software go away. Being able to audit the source code should be a must, even the final user doesn't know a bit about coding (and this point of the discussion is, for me, part of the topic. The question not was only from a technical point of view, a philosophical one too).

Regarding volume-per-person: http://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/FAQ#Can_I_change_to_volume_of_a_specific_user.3F
I'm not a power user of voip programs like ts or mumble, I'd used mumble (server setup and client usage) to use it with a friend from time to time, so I don't have a valid background about this, but, using AGC wouldn't be even better?
If I've understood correctly, the program adjust all incoming voices an sets the same volume to all of them. Just to know.

AGC is all nice on paper but it just doesnt work always, there are people who still are super quiet or louder than others

I see. In that case, yes, volume per person seems to be a better option.

Quoting: Xpanderalso i'm not going to argue with you over the open or closed. i made my points, you made yours...

Well, I didn't pretend to argue about nothing, just a philosophical discussion. But yes, each one has his own point of view, and the other one won't change it, but "why do you use linux?" could be a nice topic. Feral or Aspyr made that question on twitter and some answer were quite interesting.

The only reason I use Linux is to not be spied on by Microsalve. (read: because open source)