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If you want things just to work out of the box stay on Windows.
scaine 6 years commented on 24 April 2019 at 7:54 am UTC

I'm gonna ignore all the issues you seem have with Liam, and just cut straight to this quote:

QuoteI dont know where I am anymore, maybe I am the only one running into issues with my Linux installations...

Installations? As in, more than one? Maybe that's the issue. I went through a massive learning curve in 2005 when I tried many, many different distros. But over the years, I've hardly installed any. I haven't needed to - my distro is just that stable.

I settled on Ubuntu early because it had a great ethos, incredible community and the money of a billionaire investing in Canonical behind it. I was big contributor too, first to Ubuntu forums, then later to AskUbuntu. I tracked every release, installing clean every 6 months. I knew this distro inside and out, but still faced lots of (sometimes extremely frustrating) challenges. I get your pain.

But since 2012 (SEVEN years ago!) I've done two installs and two upgrades. First install in 2012 to get a fresh/clean version of Ubuntu 12.04 on my main rig to prepare for Steam. I upgraded that inside of 30 minutes two years later (Ubuntu 14.04), then again two years after that (16.04). Later that year, I did my second install when I got a new PC. I'm still running Ubuntu 16.04, because it's rock solid, familiar, and has all the cutting edge packages I need, via PPAs.

So my advice is, find one thing you love, and stick with it. Lubuntu? Great. Arch? Magic. But find one, and learn it until it's perfect for you.

Oh, as for "Windows just works out of the box"?? Jesus. I don't even know where to start with that. Maybe Windows 10 is better these days, but my last experience of getting Windows 7 installed was basically "nothing works out of the box". No USB drivers, no WIFI, not even ethernet. Motherboard drivers (?), sound drivers, graphics drivers. Urgh. And everything you downloaded came with some kind of crapware control panel. Just so painful.

Linux, by comparison, is a golden ray of sunshine. Your mileage obviously seems to vary.

dvd commented on 24 April 2019 at 11:43 am UTC

Used to be you had to download the blobs from team red or team green even on windows to play games (it was even recommended). Windows doesn't work out of the box. By the way this one is not true on linux, many distributions include the firmware and driver blob also by default (even debian installs it if you enable nonfree software iirc). And since for AMD stuff the open drivers are good, updates to those arrive more frequently to the repos.
Used to be the same with some printer drivers/software (still is, i ran into it a couple of weeks ago).

Seems like most of the stuff you're talking about is just sensationalism. I'm especially perplexed about your quip on the network managers. I don't really like NetworkManager, but it is a lot more usable then the connections thing in windows. I think it's a lot easier to find the settings for everyday networking tasks.

Also, if you don't like installing stuff, don't game on damn small linux, that's just a general advice. Also, if you hate LXDE, why use lubuntu? A modern computer won't run much slower just because of the DE you run on it.

Cyril commented on 24 April 2019 at 12:15 pm UTC

All the Linux installations I have done (for me, for others, for test...) worked out of the box.
I'm really surprised to read this, especially in 2019.

Installing all of these drivers on Windows, configure the whole system to do what I really want and not the Microsoft bullshits... it's kinda a pain in the ass! And since I switched completely to Linux, I don't want ever to do this anymore, oh god no.

About your problem with resolving IP, I never had this issue, my network works fine with any OS/device.
And about installing a new file explorer, that's fine you can do it or not but maybe Lubuntu is not the "right" distribution for you.
I'm curious, what distributions have you tested so far?

Cedron commented on 24 April 2019 at 1:21 pm UTC

This is a funny place.

Somebody borderline trolls you with a "Windows is better than Linux" frustration rant, and you all go "Full Exposition" mode.

I ask for some experienced opinions and no one mentions a peep. Would it help if I said "Gamepads suck" to get your ire up?

Please see the "Seeking some opinions - Redo" and opine away.

Ced

P.S. Punch cards or Floppy disks: Which are better?

tuubi commented on 24 April 2019 at 3:50 pm UTC

CedronPlease see the "Seeking some opinions - Redo" and opine away.
Snide comments won't make people want to read your topic. A title that actually says something about the subject might help.

CedronP.S. Punch cards or Floppy disks: Which are better?
For storing data, the latter obviously, but this is very off topic here.

Cedron commented on 24 April 2019 at 6:07 pm UTC

Dear tuubi,

Only the second line was meant to be snide. I don't think the OP was trolling, but dang, hard to tell. He (she?) drops a "my distro is better than yours" turd and hasn't been back.

The P.S. was meant to be sarcasm, didn't think I needed a /sarc.

My apologies all around. I've edited the title of my other thread.

I did get a useful answer on another question in the Programmimg forum, so I do appreciate that.

Ced

Shmerl commented on 24 April 2019 at 6:37 pm UTC

I tell people simply - ditch Windows for good and have no regrets. Some stuff won't work - so what. Find one that does. Telling people to stay on Windows is a bad idea.

scaine 6 years commented on 24 April 2019 at 6:52 pm UTC

CedronDear tuubi,

Only the second line was meant to be snide. I don't think the OP was trolling, but dang, hard to tell. He (she?) drops a "my distro is better than yours" turd and hasn't been back.

The P.S. was meant to be sarcasm, didn't think I needed a /sarc.

My apologies all around. I've edited the title of my other thread.

I did get a useful answer on another question in the Programmimg forum, so I do appreciate that.

Ced

Haha! You can tell what we're passionate about, eh?

I did see your thread on gamepads, but your opening line was pretty much "I'm a programmer not a gamer" and to be honest, I didn't think to read past that, as I thought was it going to be a programming thread. Didn't realise you were looking for feedback on it.

Xbox360 pad suck btw. /s

Salvatos commented on 24 April 2019 at 7:44 pm UTC

CedronSomebody borderline trolls you with a "Windows is better than Linux" frustration rant, and you all go "Full Exposition" mode.

I ask for some experienced opinions and no one mentions a peep.
One of those requires specialized technical knowledge. The other requires some user experience on Linux and/or Windows and an opinion, both of which everyone here has plenty of. It's not hard to see why they don't get the same amount of replies. And yeah, an explicit title helps.

ageres commented on 25 April 2019 at 1:36 am UTC

Win10 news: the upcoming big update won't install if you have any USB drive attached to your computer, otherwise it would have a chance to rename drive C: to another letter and screw up the whole system.
https://www.pcgamer.com/usb-drives-are-confusing-the-may-2019-update-for-windows-10/

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