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Tags for Non-Gaming related articles.
dubigrasu commented on 19 September 2019 at 12:00 pm UTC

Would be possible to have specific tags applied to non-gaming articles?
For example the recent article about Stallman is tagged "Misc", which is a bit broad and encompasses a great deal of gaming related articles.
I've been looking through the list of available tags and the most similar to what I'm thinking is "Political", but of course it still doesn't actually fit.
Probably the most obvious tag would be "Non Gaming", as someone suggested?

Liam Dawe commented on 19 September 2019 at 12:30 pm UTC

The problem is, as always with how the blocking system works, is what if we use the tag on something you might actually want to read?

For example, we sometimes post distro news, and while we have a tag for that what if we also added the Non Gaming tag and you're blocking it?

What are your thoughts? This is why I added the All News tag to temporarily remove filtering on the home page but still let's have a chat about it.

ageres commented on 19 September 2019 at 12:37 pm UTC

What about a tag "Drama" for this kind of news?

dubigrasu commented on 19 September 2019 at 12:54 pm UTC

Not gonna lie Liam, I haven't thought this through, and you're raising good questions. I'll have to get a coffee and think about it, unless someone comes with a good idea first.

@ageres
For heaven sake man, you said exactly what I was thinking but never dared to say it out loud
The problem is, you might not know before hand if the topic deserves that tag.

But yeah, you've been in my head, get out.

g000h commented on 19 September 2019 at 1:06 pm UTC

J/k - An SJW tag.

WorMzy commented on 19 September 2019 at 1:54 pm UTC

I've been thinking about this too -- I don't want to see anything that exclusively concerns the humble store, so I have "Humble Store" in my list of excluded tags. This has the unfortunate side effect of hiding any articles that are tagged with e.g. "Steam" and "Humble Store". I want to see such articles, but the current system is a simple boolean (if not $tag, do show).

A possible solution would be to have a scale for each tag, e.g. ranging from:

  • Never show (-100)

  • Prefer hidden (-5)

  • Hide if possible (-1)

  • Show if possible (default +1)

  • Try to show (+5)


"Never show" would be the equivalent of the current system, where the article is not shown at all (even if every other tag is "Try to show"), the other tags are used to calculate a score for the article. If the article has a positive score, it is shown, otherwise it is hidden.

This would probably cause a lot of extra load on the server though.

ageres commented on 19 September 2019 at 2:04 pm UTC

dubigrasuThe problem is, you might not know before hand if the topic deserves that tag.
I think it's actually obvious. Someone said something, some people got offended, started writing things on Twitter and thus caused troubles for that person.

Salvatos commented on 19 September 2019 at 5:21 pm UTC

Liam DaweFor example, we sometimes post distro news, and while we have a tag for that what if we also added the Non Gaming tag and you're blocking it?
Well, distro-specific news aren’t really gaming-related (besides the Ubuntu 32-bit stuff I guess), so I’d say this is fine. Personally, the recent articles on Manjaro’s new release were something I would block out if they were frequent enough that I couldn’t just glance past their titles on the home page.

But honestly a Drama tag is also what first came to mind when this came up in the Stallman article.

Dedale commented on 19 September 2019 at 5:49 pm UTC

Sure but "Game X is not ported to our OS raaargh" or "Game Y is ported but runs like sh*t aargh !" generates its share of drama too.

And nobody would agree on who should be labelled a SJW so it wouldn't work either. (I do label frequently right wing bullies that way, others think it should be used only on left leaning bullies, other to all people who share opinion X, etc...)

"Politics" wouldn't work either. Some may argue that big company X going Vulkan is politics. You don't like drama but you may be interested if a government pushes for open source technology, etc...

There aren't many articles like those anyway so IMHO, reading the titles works out quite well. If you think some subjects are simply noise just don't let yourself be tempted to add more.

14 commented on 19 September 2019 at 6:21 pm UTC

Salvatos
Liam DaweFor example, we sometimes post distro news, and while we have a tag for that what if we also added the Non Gaming tag and you're blocking it?
Well, distro-specific news aren’t really gaming-related (besides the Ubuntu 32-bit stuff I guess), so I’d say this is fine. Personally, the recent articles on Manjaro’s new release were something I would block out if they were frequent enough that I couldn’t just glance past their titles on the home page.

But honestly a Drama tag is also what first came to mind when this came up in the Stallman article.
I appreciate the distro news. It has only been about the popular ones and nowhere near overwhelming.

As far as a drama tag or not goes, how hard is it to not click on an article you don't want to read? I do it all the time with game articles that don't look like something I'm interested in at all.

Salvatos commented on 19 September 2019 at 6:48 pm UTC

So do I, but I can understand the appeal for people who are interested in specific subjects and have a lot of frequent topics they’d prefer not to have to sift through. If I were only here for VR news for instance, I’d filter out everything else.

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