The Steam Beta Client has some updates to the runtime for games that needs testing

Any idea what they've changed? New packages? Updated packages?

I have to run this command so I use the native packages on my machine to prevent segfaults

find ~/.steam/root/ \( -name "libgcc_s.so*" -o -name "libstdc++.so*" -o -name "libxcb*.so*" -o -name "libvulkan.so*" \) -print -delete

Any idea what they've changed? New packages? Updated packages?

I have to run this command so I use the native packages on my machine to prevent segfaults

find ~/.steam/root/ \( -name "libgcc_s.so*" -o -name "libstdc++.so*" -o -name "libxcb*.so*" -o -name "libvulkan.so*" \) -print -delete

I'm waiting to hear back about it, will update when I know.

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime/issues/101 [External Link]

maybe related to this, users reported issues with uplay to name one

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/1789 [External Link]


Last edited by Werner on 24 Oct 2018 at 10:55 am UTC

In this week episode

On native side

Life is Strange


Last test with Pentium G3258 @ 4.1ghz + Artic Cooling Alpine 11 Plus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJBOY4bxMFo [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

(around 50 to 80fps more fps compared pentium with same settings)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4z86QpRjE [External Link]


Bioshock Infinite


Last test with Pentium G3258 @ 4.1ghz + Artic Cooling Alpine 11 Plus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW_4GToXTfs [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xTtCY5jCVs [External Link]


Deadfall Adventures


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESmIg7BFkKg [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHSyoozBmTY [External Link]


Bound by Flame


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cip2zUrSZc [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAKIx8xcOrY [External Link]


On steamplay side


Shellshock 2


Last test with Pentium G3258 @ 4.1ghz + Artic Cooling Alpine 11 Plus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcvLxe-e8C0 [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

(around 100% more fps compared pentium with same settings)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifZIBQsKsuA [External Link]


F.E.A.R


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jcvnEhi54 [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CuVnGq9zhY [External Link]


Bioshock 1


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs4B3gvHXzA [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxQ08g8xiDI [External Link]


Singularity


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu1J-P6mISk [External Link]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzQEby2c0_Y [External Link]


Unreal Tournament 3


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro2GvssSsa4 [External Link]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeML-6_H3S4 [External Link]


Rage


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikbIRRCmWms [External Link]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBAd-IJAJ5g [External Link]


Dishonored


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs6BMzMKobg [External Link]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh3bTYx3ZsE [External Link]


Clive Barker Jericho


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-RBWAbCnFE [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGZjcWYoiOg [External Link]


Rogue Warrior


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzLeObJAZtI [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lScgVTWH5vM [External Link]


Anachronox


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC7RAZWBToo [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9HWKBLPz9U [External Link]


And other non steam apps


OpenRCT 2


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And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd5I903YE8U [External Link]


Zsnes 1.51


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNJ_rSUvquQ [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P5W2aMPTNc [External Link]


Epsxe 2.05



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcxdgOdqv_U [External Link]

And now with Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJacTGXQUWo [External Link]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2m6dxkoLIE [External Link]


Yabause 0.9.15


With Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnBWv5y3oWI [External Link]


ReDream 1.31




With Core i3 8350K Tri-Core @ 5.0ghz + CoolerMaster Hyper T4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJGBvS8rRmA [External Link]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOe9vHECMtM [External Link]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvIXK6wbTpI [External Link]


^_^


Last edited by mrdeathjr on 24 Oct 2018 at 4:05 pm UTC

Any idea what they've changed? New packages? Updated packages?

I have to run this command so I use the native packages on my machine to prevent segfaults

find ~/.steam/root/ \( -name "libgcc_s.so*" -o -name "libstdc++.so*" -o -name "libxcb*.so*" -o -name "libvulkan.so*" \) -print -delete

You should probably use the native runtime. Not sure if Gentoo has such a thing, but Arch has a wrapper:

#!/bin/sh
export STEAM_RUNTIME=0
# Workaround for dbus fatal termination related coredumps (SIGABRT)
# https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/4464
export DBUS_FATAL_WARNINGS=0
# Override some libraries as these are what games linked against.
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/steam:/usr/lib32/steam${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+:}$LD_LIBRARY_PATH"
exec /usr/lib/steam/steam "$@"

Adjust to your system.


It's good that they're finally moving away from the ancient Ubuntu 12.04 base, but I hope they don't just bump up to 14.04, which is EOL in five months..

Any idea what they've changed? New packages? Updated packages?

I have to run this command so I use the native packages on my machine to prevent segfaults

find ~/.steam/root/ \( -name "libgcc_s.so*" -o -name "libstdc++.so*" -o -name "libxcb*.so*" -o -name "libvulkan.so*" \) -print -delete

I remember a guy that run this command but replaced the steam directory with the root directory (and with sudo!)

As advice, remember to check every command you use with this: https://explainshell.com/ [External Link]

About steam runtime, I though that steam was using system libraries by default. Maybe the problems happens with games (or proton) preferring steam runtimes libs?

So far , everything looks like working.

Even Quake Champions still has error 103 :D

As advice, remember to check every command you use with this: https://explainshell.com/ [External Link]

That's a nice one, thanks!

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime/issues/101

maybe related to this, users reported issues with uplay to name one

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/1789 [External Link]

That's my assumption too. The version of GnuTLS used by the Steam runtime/Proton is becoming so old that going forward all TLS connections will cease to work, as the old protocols have security issues and are being deprecated.

It annoys me so much that the Steam Runtime was the necessary solution to a problem that shouldn't exist.

Sadly, this does not seem to have fixed Quake Champions' connection issue.


Last edited by D34VA_ on 24 Oct 2018 at 9:45 pm UTC

i think they need to recompile proton also to make use of it, so test again when they release a new proton beta

Sadly, this does not seem to have fixed Quake Champions' connection issue.

They are working on it.

Any idea what they've changed? New packages? Updated packages?

I have to run this command so I use the native packages on my machine to prevent segfaults

find ~/.steam/root/ \( -name "libgcc_s.so*" -o -name "libstdc++.so*" -o -name "libxcb*.so*" -o -name "libvulkan.so*" \) -print -delete

I remember a guy that run this command but replaced the steam directory with the root directory (and with sudo!)

As advice, remember to check every command you use with this: https://explainshell.com/ [External Link]

About steam runtime, I though that steam was using system libraries by default. Maybe the problems happens with games (or proton) preferring steam runtimes libs?

I have to run with STEAM_RUNTIME_PREFER_HOST_LIBRARIES=0 too as most of my libraries are too new for the games using them, delete the above and everything runs fine using the steam runtime

I think they need to ship two runtimes - a historical one to honor their promise of old games working indefinitely and a new one for new games and Proton. New one should be based on 18.04.

It annoys me so much that the Steam Runtime was the necessary solution to a problem that shouldn't exist.

Other then forcing library writers to maintain a backwards compatible stable (aka new functions can be added) ABI there is just no other way to solve this. Or we could go the Windows way and have every game bundle every single library that they use so we will have 2 million instances of openssl with varying degrees of security holes in them on our drives.

I think they need to ship two runtimes - a historical one to honor their promise of old games working indefinitely and a new one for new games and Proton. New one should be based on 18.04.

I think they will considering that the current runtime lives in directories named "ubuntu12_32" and "ubuntu12_64", if they never planned to keep the historical ones they wouldn't have named them in this way.

edit: but then I read the post from @hateball so things might not be so clear after all. I guess that one major problem here is that Steam does not know which version of the runtime a specific game is built for (unless they have such meta-data).


Last edited by F.Ultra on 25 Oct 2018 at 8:51 pm UTC

Seems to have broken at least The Tiny Bang Story, game expects libGLEW1.6 and now there is only 1.10 present.
Not quite sure how to report that properly, but I made a post on the games forums... https://steamcommunity.com/app/96000/discussions/0/1733216893876281579/ [External Link]

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-runtime [External Link]

Quite frankly I'm at the point of blaming networks for turning off older TLS with no fallback.

The fallback is called "newer TLS version", and has been supported by OSes and applications for quite a while. Obviously old GnuTLS didn't support them. GnuTLS 2.6.6 was released on 2009-04-30, more than 9 years ago. We did not even know about the vulnerabilities back then.

Blaming networks for caring about your data's security and disabling these broken protocols seems a bit odd.

The issue here isn't GnuTLS or the networks, but the Steam runtime being so old and not being kept up to date (at least the security relevant parts of it should be updated).

Was sent this about the update: https://gist.github.com/TTimo/b931f11bacbdba22d3ef8532caa96952 [External Link]