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Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: CaldathrasYou are assuming that most people even care or know what operating system is on the device.

You’re putting words in my mouth. What I’m assuming is that if their devices annoy them, they will complain to vendors, and the vendors will lobby against the law when the customer service it requires or the bad press it generates become too much of a burden/liability.

Not at all, you did write

Quoting: SalvatosLinux runs virtually everything that's not a PC.

I simply pointed out the most people are not going to care about the underlying operating system on those devices. The discussion, after all, was that Linux and Linux alone would inspire a voter uprising.

I'm not saying that a voter uprising won't happen, just that if it does, it won't be Linux that inspires it. They won't care about the operating system, just the inconvenience the law is creating in their lives.

I can't see complaints to vendors initiating such political change. If the vendors had that much influence, the bill never would have been tabled in the first place. I don't think the vendors will care -- such laws are rarely retroactive.

Myself, based on the acceptance of the Microsoft Account requirement for Win11 and everything else the Tech Giants impose on them, I'm guessing that the California voters will just roll over and accept it. I could be wrong.

Do voters in California have the ability to initiate a mandatory referendum, that, if successful, the politicians are required to implement?

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Quoting: scaine"I'm doing a thing people hate, so instead of not doing that, I'll continue to do it, but hide it better"

That's a bold position to take in any project, let alone a FOSS project. And just because he can use it in non-slop manner (maybe? hopefully?) it doesn't absolve him of the ethical concerns many of us have about genAI.

If you don't trust AI generated code is just because, maybe, you put too much trust into humans and that is dangerous, as the very opposite.
As for the ethical matter, do you think it poses an ethical issue to write an official document using a text editor, instead of doing it by your hand?
This is the same case, except the "co-authored by AI" sign thing which is very stupid, indeed, and without any legal basis.

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Quoting: CaldathrasYou are assuming that most people even care or know what operating system is on the device.

You’re putting words in my mouth. What I’m assuming is that if their devices annoy them, they will complain to vendors, and the vendors will lobby against the law when the customer service it requires or the bad press it generates become too much of a burden/liability.

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I played the game as a demo about a year ago, and I like it. I've been biding my time, waiting for it to be reduced in price, maybe 50%+ ideally 75%+ discount. Although an unrealistic viewpoint, I wish developer teams would *move on* to new projects rather than keep adding extra 'value' onto older titles. DLC additions like this keep the asking price of the title high which discourages me to ever buy it.

Yes, I am a proper bargain seeker. It is almost unheard of for me to pay anywhere near full price for a title.

In a similar vein, rather than the Facepunch developers keep on changing their RUST game, adding more and more content, completely altering the way it plays - They could have built a brand new game from scratch, survival, base building, in a different setting (Space, Fantasy, Cyberpunk).

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Quoting: mr-victory

Quoting: ArehandoroThe fear is tangible.

And fear is not good for working.

The fear of what? Merging so much code with unknown functionality and/or side effects?

That too, of course, but mainly fear of being let go. If AI writes the code, and AI reviews it... what are we supposed to do?

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Quoting: ArehandoroThe fear is tangible.

And fear is not good for working.

The fear of what? Merging so much code with unknown functionality and/or side effects?

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Quoting: tuubiThe only way I've used LLMs professionally is to help with the translation of documents I've written, and that's only due to time pressure. It helped less than you might think, seeing as we're talking about compliance and policy documents, which means the language needs to be precise and exact. Took a lot of manual comparison and corrections, but it was still a bit quicker than doing it all line by line.

I think that is the key point. Most people have tight deadlines and end up using it, myself included, even if they hate it and are against it.

In my team, a mix of software engineers, architects, data engineers, etc, we're now expected to use Claude Code, and from creating code and architecture design now the workload has shifted to reviewing PRs... and only last week the company started playing with AI PR reviews too because they became the bottleneck, cause people can't properly review so much slop all the time. The fear is tangible.

And fear is not good for working.

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Quoting: Arten

• AI is just a tool, and when used responsibly it is reasonable to employ it. I don’t think generating an entire article with AI is a good idea, but using it for spell‑checking? If it can catch incorrect wording, that’s a worthwhile use.

This is the correct take, as long as "responsibly" and "reasonable" are well defined, and cover issues beyond immediate utility, including legal, societal and environmental ramifications. Not just whether you get useful results out of it.

The only way I've used LLMs professionally is to help with the translation of documents I've written, and that's only due to time pressure. It helped less than you might think, seeing as we're talking about compliance and policy documents, which means the language needs to be precise and exact. Took a lot of manual comparison and corrections, but it was still a bit quicker than doing it all line by line.

Mostly LLMs have been a huge pain in my backside and a source of tons of extra busywork, being the guy responsible for information security in our organisation. I keep having to preach to everyone from the C-suite down to individual developers that laws do in fact limit what we can do when it comes to LLMs, and risks need to be assessed and results measured just like in everything else we do. We've got EU wide legislation like the EU AI ACT, NIS2 and obviously the GDPR forcing us to be responsible with our customers' data and transparent about our AI use. (And that's a good thing for every single one of us, even if that might mean a few less euros going to the pockets of shareholders.)

And non-professionally, I don't see any use for LLMs. I enjoy being creative, be it photography, coding or doodling something silly with my wife's Cintiq, and all of these would be less fun if the machine did the work for me. Results are less important than the process. Might as well just let an LLM play my games and read my novels for me.

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Quoting: kmturleyIt's sad to say this, but you will need a 100% human badge for the site.

The idea is so good that I was sure somebody has made them already.

Here you go: https://www.aimeecozza.com/human-made/

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Thank you for making this site my #1 bookmark on everything! The work put in daily is nothing short of incredible.

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It's sad to say this, but you will need a 100% human badge for the site.

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Quoting: KandarihuI don't think that this is the right approach. As much as I want Linux to grow as a platform, this gives us an unfair advantage. The better choice will be to scrap/abolish such legislation entirely.

I disagree. First off, Linux desktop market share is small enough that anything to give it an advantage is a good thing. And second, if this kind of legislation does end up favoring FOSS, then the answer is simple. Microsoft, Apple and all the other proprietary goons should just make all their stuff FOSS too. If the legislation is stacked against proprietary, then stop being proprietary.

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The Attorney General of New York is not a hero, and does not get a free pass to do whatever she wants just because she opposes He Who Shall Not Be Named. Just because my country loves to make everything partisan does not mean I have to play along and clap to the song and dance of either party.

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I used Lutris back in 2020 when I first switched to Linux because it was recommended, but I haven't used it since. I don't think it's very good, and I find Heroic to be much better for my GOG games.

Now, with that out of the way, I don't object to the Lutris developer using AI. I object to him trying to hide it rather than be upfront, and I also find him hypocritical. He criticizes Google, OpenAI and Meta...while using Anthropic's Claude. As far as I'm concerned, Anthropic is no better than any other "AI Company".

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From my point of view, there are three stances toward AI. Two of them are unhelpful. One is reasonable.

• AI is evil and must be avoided in all cases. This is a bad stance.
• AI is just a tool, and when used responsibly it is reasonable to employ it. I don’t think generating an entire article with AI is a good idea, but using it for spell‑checking? If it can catch incorrect wording, that’s a worthwhile use.
• Throw AI at anything. This is also a bad stance.

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The gameplay was haphazard, the controls horrible, hand-holding nonexistent. But the graphics and the sound were great. I loved it.

Never played it for long, because it was just too random. But I still know (and can probably play) the (absolutely great) title melody.

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Quoting: hardpenguinStop, stop, we went sufficiently back 😄

We're all waiting for EGAVK.

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Quoting: FeistIT Came from the Desert,

oh heck yea. Non Ai sloppa remaster please !

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Quoting: BrorimThey shold release a barebones version .

I also hopped to buy Steam Machine in this year, but such "crippled" version without required components like RAM - doesn't make sense.

Even that Valve is small company (compared to Microsoft or Sony) with very limited availability of their hardware that is targeted to very sophisticated customer -> they cannot sell just DIY parts. For example how to check compatibility with that? Impossible...

Perhaps there is also some good things about that... Maybe delay will give Valve more time not only to improve SteamOS/Proton (and FEX especially), but perhaps if premiere will be targeted 2027 -> they will reconsider hardware specification to be maybe little more recent than RDNA 3...

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Quoting: Nora Bell _They-She_I'd like to see an un-Googled build too, though I suspect that is still some time away.

Good news! Ungoogled Chromium is a thing!

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Quoting: g000h

Quoting: Caldathras

Quoting: g000hAs soon as Californians are no longer able to legally run Linux, their own citizens will go after this law and end the moronic political overreach.

This assumes that the majority of Californians are Linux users. Linux is not significant enough to overturn this law. Besides, the majority of eligible voters are indifferent sheep ... they are more likely to just accept or ignore the overreach.

Well the alternative is just giving up and result in Linux dying. Is that what you want? BTW California state includes Big Tech utopia Silicon Valley. Love to see Google and Meta trying to run without access to open source.

It appears that Meta is responsible for causing this political upheaval - Lobbying politicians in these areas. (Meta gets to avoid big fines if it passes age verification onto operating systems and app stores.)

I'm not sure how we went from Linux not likely to be the tipping point to inspire a voter uprising to Linux being gone forever if it doesn't. What does Silicon Valley or Open Source have to do with it? Linus Torvalds lives in Portland. The Linux Foundation can be moved out of California if necessary. For that matter, so could Google or Meta. Many Linux distros are not even developed and maintained in the US. Arch Linux is Canadian by origin. Linux Mint is based in Ireland. Canonical (Ubuntu) is based in the UK. Debian appears to be truly global. Almost every country has its own unique flavor of Linux. California is hardly a threat to the future of Linux.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Meta was involved.

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Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: Caldathras

Quoting: g000hAs soon as Californians are no longer able to legally run Linux, their own citizens will go after this law and end the moronic political overreach.

This assumes that the majority of Californians are Linux users.

They are. Linux runs virtually everything that's not a PC. What types of devices will fall under each law's purview? Smart watches? Routers? CCTV systems? Car entertainment systems? The farther it reaches, the more it hurts people's convenience and risks overcoming their complacency.

Certainly, the broader its effect, the more frustrating it will become. But it is not Linux that will be the tipping point. You are assuming that most people even care or know what operating system is on the device. Some of those devices likely already have age-gating tools built-in. From what I've read, M$ is already age-gating Windows 11 via their Microsoft Account requirement. When I set up such an account for my employer to enable extended update support on Windows 10, providing her birthdate was required. My employer wasn't the least bit fussed. If they've already accepted it on Windows, why would they object to Linux? Don't underestimate voter complacency, is all I am saying.

FYI - incidentally, I am not in support of this becoming law in any way, shape or form.

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Quoting: minidouridiculous, but not surprising
there's no stopping the moral panic against AI it seems

Interesting take, I'd not have put the backlash against AI/LLMs into that category. There can be backlash against a thing without it being a moral panic. I think that the backlash is against how it was sold and what the reality of it is and how it is being abused pretty mindlessly (almost as if an LLM is the one doing the abusing of the usage of itself).

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Quoting: Liam DaweOpenTTD has had free graphics and music available for a very long time. Using content from TTD is entirely optional.

That's what I thought. This definitely smells of Atari going "make people buy our game to play yours, or we'll DMCA you off of Steam and GOG". At least per the change notes it says:

If you already own OpenTTD on Steam, nothing changes.
You'll continue to receive game updates as usual.
If you ever need to re-download the game, the game will remain in your Steam library.

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Quoting: Pikolo

Quoting: Philadelphus

Quoting: PikoloIt was working the same as @everyone (mentioning everyone giving them a notification), but without warning you that you're sending a very broad notification

Thanks! I'm just still unclear what an "escaped mention" is, or at least what it's supposed to do. If "\@everyone" does the same as "@everyone" now (if I understand the fix)…what's the point of the backslash? 🤔 Or does it do something different now? What does "\@<user>" do differently from "@user"?

It's not supposed to do anything besides showing the text ;)

Ah! Gotcha. That was unclear, thank you. I'm familiar with the concept of escaping characters, but the description in the patch notes just wasn't making sense to me (and I didn't know about escaping the @ symbol in Discord.) So the issue was that it wasn't correctly escaping "@everyone/@here", and now it does. 🙂

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Defender of the Crown is an absolute classic originally released on the Amiga

I remember this game! I played it on my Amiga 500. Good times.

Of course, I was legally an adult, not a child, then ...

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Quoting: JarmerAs a father of two very small children I absolutely love this and hope they push it even harder. I have absolutely loved games my entire life. I want my kids too as well. But: I have no patience or tolerance for these predatory parasites that attempt to prey on children with dark patterns and outright gambling.

This is really no different than the North American Saturday Morning Children's Shows from the eighties and nineties. They were just half-hour long commercials designed to teach children to be good consumers. Almost all the shows had toys and other collectables that they pushed on children. Nevermind the cereal commercials run by the networks between the breaks. The exploiters just shifted spheres when their target market did.

Fortunately, my parents had a hard heart regarding this kind of manipulation and were not moved by their children's pleadings.

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Wow, @mrdeathjr, for a DX3 game, MotoRacer 2 looks pretty amazing.

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Unity Engine games are one of the most problematic games for me to get running stable in Proton. They are the most likely to crash unexpectedly. I'd say that the Unity devs have a lot of work to do for both Proton and Native support...

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