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browsers I've found that don't seem to have AI plans.

https://servo.org/ (rust, new rendering engine, in progress)
https://ladybird.org/ (c++, new rendering engine, in progress, founder may be sketchy)

https://apps.gnome.org/Epiphany/ (gnome, WebKitGtk)
https://www.falkon.org/ (kde, qtwebengine)
https://apps.kde.org/konqueror (kde, qtwebengine)

https://salsa.debian.org/debian/w3m (text mode)
https://lynx.invisible-island.net/ (text mode)

forks of firefox
https://www.torproject.org/download/ (says they'll remove AI, intended to be used with Tor)
https://mullvad.net/en/browser (fork of tor browser, but can connect to regular internet via VPN)
https://librewolf.net/

I'm not sure what's up with chrome/chromium based forks.

I haven't really tried the KDE options in a while, epiphany was able to log into some work websites that used duo for 2 factor.

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The article say it already:

"AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off."

if they allow one to turn on or off the AI, all fine to me
AI can be useful, but it is not something any one keeps always on and too dependent

Between a TLDR article that i read only the top lines and a "summarize this" (only when i want)... guess what is better!

it is just like the translator, not needed most of the time, useful on some situations.

Now lets hope is that adding AI do not break other stuff, something is a optional feature, other is shove in your face

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It's sad to see Mozilla making the same bad choices. Prioritizing shareholder profits seems to come above everything else.

Lest we forget:

- Rewriting Firefox Terms of Use / Privacy Notice with broad licensing language (appeared to grant Mozilla rights to user input; caused major user backlash; subsequently revised)

- Moving toward increased ad revenue and partnerships (adding sponsored content/ads in Firefox and related services), raising concerns about monetization vs. privacy

- Heavy financial dependence on Google search-default deals (large portion of revenue from Google), raising conflict-of-interest and independence concerns

- Leadership controversies and contentious executive appointments (e.g., Brendan Eich 2014 CEO appointment controversy over prior political donation)

- Removing or deprecating user-favored features and products (e.g., Pocket shutdown, Fakespot removal, UI changes like Proton tab removals) that alienated loyal users

- Product regressions and reliability/performance regressions reported by users (pages/apps breaking, higher memory use, regressions in performance)

- Accusations of questionable third‑party partnerships (e.g., monitoring/identity services, ad/analytics vendors) and integrations that conflicted with earlier privacy commitments

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I don't care about their third commitment, provided they're true to their first commitment which will allow me to turn all that AI shite off.

However, even the commitment to AI is depressing. As another comment before this noted... there are so many better ways to use their resources than cram unwanted AI features into what's almost the last bastion of non-Google browsers.

Edit... I've just read the post and their "double bottom line" manifesto, and it's clear that their going all in on AI. Goddamit. Time to look for another browser.

FUCK! (sorry) So angry.

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Quoting: kuhpunktWhat does that even mean.

It means you will use AI and you will like it. There is no escape. Consume!

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What does that even mean.

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I'd rather see them replacing Gecko with Servo and implementing Vulkan rendering instead of all this AI nonsense.

Hopefully Servo based browser will become a thing eventually, with Mozilla or without.

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As to timing, obviously it will be out in March. Otherwise they'd be calling it "April of Giants" or something.

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Yuk, so we're left with a few webkit reskins and ... lynx?

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Some people, when seeing such success, wonder how they can monetise it better. Team cherry wondered how they could better thank their fans.

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For once I have no problem with this, I mean rubbish belongs in the dumpyard if you catch my meaning.

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I've cleaned up the comments a little after having time to think about the language being used here. Please try to stick to the rules, and refrain from being intentionally inflammatory. We have people from all countries reading, let's play nice. Thank you.

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Piss off Ubishit, despicable monster destroying everything they touch. Yves and the entire board/Guillemot family should be in prison for crimes against humanity and all IP's they have taken hostage released to better hands.

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Makes sense, it's feature complete and superseded by RTX Remix.

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Has the term "RTS" become so taboo at this point, that we have to designate this game as "a MOBA where you lead an army of soldiers" instead?

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I hope they sell it on GOG or itch eventually, my daughter is kind of young and still uses my Steam account, I don't want to have to explain this game to her 😆

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Letting random people decide the name of a subgenre hasn't gone well in the past. That's not far from how we ended up with calling games like Deus Ex "immersive sims", a phrase completely synonymous with "good videogames".

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Quoting: tmtvlDo I? After hours of breaking my brain I don't have the mental capacity for knowing which century it is, let alone which day of the week.

I don't even know where I'm at right now.

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Quoting: PhreezeBut is it really necessary? usually you KNOW what day it is

Do I? After hours of breaking my brain I don't have the mental capacity for knowing which century it is, let alone which day of the week.

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Love the Amiga demoscene style music!

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Quoting: lilovent

Quoting: tpauThe question is how can we keep the almost monopoly of Steam in check and balance it out?
I buy my games only on Steam if there is no other option.

The answer is simple: provide competitive good enough services and shopping experience that are on par at least with Steam.

If any other game shop does not want to provide that or cannot do that, they won't get better market shares.

For example, Epic is still burning Fortnite money and any of their underhanded tactics did not work out, instead of treating customers better.

Steam does exactly that, that is providing in comparison to other stores the best services.

Steam's behavior is so interesting.
They behave themselves as a monopolist that fears anti-trust law, which is such a weird situation.

You know Valve's reputation of "winning by doing nothing".
That's how you win as a legal monopolist.
Let the economy of scale and ages of product refinement carry you, because a reaction would by definition be anti-competitive(quite literally you take actions to minimize the amount of competition you face).

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It took them 43 releases to realise they needed more formal testing procedures? Wow, that's rather amateur to put it mildly.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: ArehandoroI got it on my wishlist, but haven't bought it yet. Maybe for the Xmas discounts :)

If you are into point and click, it is the must-have-played of the year, it seems.

I am! Fab, thanks, will get it for sure then.

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Quoting: scaineI've got the first Monster Hunter (Worlds?) which was fun, and was looking forward to Wilds, but you know how I feel about Denuvo. No interest. I think there's a third one too, right? Rise?

If they keep sticking that shitty anti-consumer BS on their games, I'll keep not buying them.

actually worlds was more like the 5th ( mainline entry) and rise was sorta a side game the way generations was after 4 with wilds essentially being 6 ,... but i agree the presence of denuvo is why i don't buy most games i don't need that crap on something i paid for making things worse ,.. thats apart from the obvious issues this game had optimization-wise added on top . hopefully they'll eventually remove it like they sometimes do and clean up performance tho i wouldn't be surprised if thats not till a yr or so after a major expansion like they usually have.

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No surprises here, just team Cherry being awesome as per usual

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Quoting: JarmerThis is so great to see!

@numerfolt do what now? Can you link me to some info? Oh it's the hyprland/omarchy toxic communities. I have never been there or spent any time with either, so I have no personal experience but from what I've read: they can F right off and I know for sure I won't be using either ever.

Oh sorry, didnt see your mention...
There's actually three things to that:

Hyprland. Actually I dug into hyprland a bit more: It was toxic, that's true. But since ~1-2 years they are actively combating harassment and the toxicity. The tone may still be a bit rough, but not toxic anymore (from what I could find out).
Which is why I have no problem with them sponsoring hyprland.

Omarchy is a different thing, they gave the developer a laptop and sponsored an event he started. I really dont like DHH and it seems like he's no nice person, but I dont mind.

The last thing is, that a moderator made it clear, that it's not allowed to call other people in their forums a nazi. This resulted in LOTS of people being like "They want to protect nazis!!!". But at the same time it's also forbidden to behave like a nazi would. And it's still allowed to call out public figures because of nazi-like behaviour. And quite some people got banned because of transphobic or racist comments, so their moderation is working quite well.
But for quite some people this is not a reasonable course of action but just framework protecting nazis.
I cant agree with that.

Hope that makes sense?

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Quoting: ArehandoroI got it on my wishlist, but haven't bought it yet. Maybe for the Xmas discounts :)

If you are into point and click, it is the must-have-played of the year, it seems.

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we do plan on having a build available for Linux (and Mac), we haven't gotten to testing other platforms yet

Not having an automatic daily build of them and testing them at least from time to time does sound like the recipe for "Oops, it didn't work out!"

But, let's see (and stay optimistic)...

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Oh boy, I havent even finished Silksong yet 😅

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: ArehandoroI've recently discovered that I'm a sucker for anything neo-noir, pixel art aesthetics and if it has a sax or synth music I'll even fall in love with it... Independently of the actual quality of the product in some cases 😅

I'm not sure what "neo-noir" looks like, but did you take a look at the (excellent) The Drifter?

I got it on my wishlist, but haven't bought it yet. Maybe for the Xmas discounts :)

Neo-Noir is mainly a Noir story but set in retro-futuristic, or also sci-fi, setting. Tex Murphy is a good example I think.

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