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Quoting: neowiz73the old launcher is fine, at least they are keeping it up to date. although I rarely play these days, ever once in a while when I get the wild hair to build something. but that's about it.

The default gui framework is swing, i'm not entirely sure what minecraft uses though.

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Quoting: wvstolzingSo they'll inject bugs into the Steam client, which will not only deter people from buying games on the Steam storefront, but also make the individual games they've bought over Steam perform worse?

No, I think what he is trying to say is that Windows will make several quiet changes over time, that are never documented, to the underlying Windows libraries that Steam has to link into for things. Like how Steam has to create a process for launching as well as interaction with the file system and updating registry keys.

For instance there might be more bug reports like this:
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/558750544052889885/

Spoiler, click me

I believe I may have found a "bug" in the Steam Client. Deleting game content doesn't activate Windows' uninstall of that game. I presume it just, you know, deletes the game's content. The issue is that there is a registry key, InstallLocation in LocalMachine\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Steam App 244210 (Assetto Corsa in my case) which remains after Steam has deleted the game files.

Reinstalling the game through steam does _not_ update this key.

If you delete the game content, that registry key remains. Then if you reinstall the game AND CHANGE THE LOCATION OF THE INSTALL, the game gets installed and that key is not updated.

I don't even know if you'd consider this a bug but since I came across it, I figured I might as well report it.

Something like that would be like the strategy that Microsoft has long employed with the OOXML document format they use for microsoft office. Even though Microsoft advertises its OOXML format as an "open" standard they make a lot of undetectable tweaks to their implementation of it so that other office software like libreoffice can't become completely compliant with the format. Hence why many documents made in Microsoft Office will likely never render correctly in libreoffice.

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the old launcher is fine, at least they are keeping it up to date. although I rarely play these days, ever once in a while when I get the wild hair to build something. but that's about it.

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Can't really see why some folk are disgruntled with Java, it's a good programming language. Swing (default Java UI System) is indeed horrible. What they replacing it with: JavaFX, Qt?

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This is exactly what I suspected would happen when Microsoft bought Mojang. Linux eventually getting f***ed....
I deleted my Minecraft account the day the purchase was made public

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Wait, people still use the vanilla launcher instead of a modpack one like FTB, ATLauncher, etc.?

... wait, people still play vanilla? :P

Yeah, I don't think this is going to be as big of a deal as it's made out to be. There's ways to launch Minecraft right off the command line - it's just a Java app. If for whatever reason the official Mojang one stops working, there'll be alternatives abound.

It depends what the new launcher is written in - if it's Java as well, then I can't see it being difficult to support Linux with it. They probably just don't test it that well.

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Is this even legal?

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Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: neowiz73I blame the Mac vs PC commercials for starting the paradigm of calling all windows based systems "PCs".

It started long before that. "PC" has always been synonymous with Microsoft in one way or another for decades.

not as much, because before the commercials mainly I remember Windows PCs being thing, because Macs were being sold in stores and were referred to Mac PCs vs Windows PCs. But Steve Jobs wanted to make a distinct difference between the two with the commercials by simply stating Macs were *Macs* and Windows PCs were just PCs.

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Quoting: neowiz73I blame the Mac vs PC commercials for starting the paradigm of calling all windows based systems "PCs".

It started long before that. "PC" has been synonymous with Microsoft in one way or another for decades.

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Also black screen.
Tried with steam version of the game (updated), nvidia-367 driver and 1070 gtx
Restart didn't help.

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Quoting: darkszluf

Quoting: Mountain ManStill waiting for a good naive Linux alternative to Diablo III. Maybe this will finally be it?

so i assume you don't have Victor Vran or Torchlight 2?

I own both, and they're good games, but neither one really comes close to Diablo in my opinion.

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Quoting: CAPTNCAPSTbh, a huge part of making UE4 run on Linux (at least for the Editor) is done by the community, not Epic themselves. They are too busy focusing on Mobile and VR. It's really disappointing. We can not even use Marketplace content on Linux, because the launcher is not available! And why is it not? Because the launcher is proprietary and the community thus cannot port it and Epic is just too lazy to do it.
Imo, they don't give a s**t about cross platform and if they do they've done surprisingly little to show it.

That's troubling since they have a Linux logo on the overview page.

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Europe > France

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Adding to what people have said: it's very short and worth your time

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Maybe it just hasn't propagated to all their download servers yet. Which region are you downloading from, nIQnutn?

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So Tim foresees issues with Win10 and Steam. Good for him!
Now can he get his acts together and sell games directly without Steam and without any DRM? Two birds with one stone.
How can this kind of big company become such a cry-baby?

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Quoting: BreezeIf the company that makes Unreal Engine, doesn't support Linux in the games they are releasing, then they must not be very confident in the cross platform capabilities of their engine. That would look very bad to me if I was looking for a cross platform game engine.

Tbh, a huge part of making UE4 run on Linux (at least for the Editor) is done by the community, not Epic themselves. They are too busy focusing on Mobile and VR. It's really disappointing. We can not even use Marketplace content on Linux, because the launcher is not available! And why is it not? Because the launcher is proprietary and the community thus cannot port it and Epic is just too lazy to do it.
Imo, they don't give a s**t about cross platform and if they do they've done surprisingly little to show it.

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I blame the Mac vs PC commercials for starting the paradigm of calling all windows based systems "PCs".
Once people realize what's going on with MS and their shenanigans more people will start to adopt Linux full time.
When it comes to gamers though, it's going to boil down to "if game X is available on Linux". PC gaming has supposedly been dropping year over year and it's all moving towards consoles and Mobile now.

MS has been trying so hard to be like Apple over the past 10 years. Why?, because Apple makes more money than MS, despite being a closed system end to end. MS 2015 earnings vs Apple's 2015 earnings shows Apple making $29 billion more than MS. this was a $9 billion increase in profits from the year before for Apple, while MS has been showing rocky gains and losses.

Eventually if the Linux market share doesn't gain some decent headway the hardware manufacturers will start to only make server hardware compatible for Linux while desktop hardware will be more tailored for Windows at the rate things are going. This i dread the most. I truly hope this doesn't ever happen. But it definitely looks to be something MS would really like to see happen. How likely? is the big question.

I'm not talking about universal hardware that's sold to the build it yourself crowd like myself (we are the minority), although not an impossibility to run into issues with more hardware going forward when installing Linux. This is mainly on the end of the manufacturers like Dell, HP, etc...

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Quoting: GuestNo luck with the 367.35 nvidia drivers either, still impossible to switch to Vulkan. I also tried the beta.

I'm also in 367.35.I have a black screen after I apply for the Vulkan api but after I restart the game it worked for me.

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If the company that makes Unreal Engine, doesn't support Linux in the games they are releasing, then they must not be very confident in the cross platform capabilities of their engine. That would look very bad to me if I was looking for a cross platform game engine.

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Definitely give this a go and play right to the end (else you miss the whole point). :)

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Overlord 1 and 2 are ok on my Debian.
Nvida GTX660: nvidia driver 352.79

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Added the feeds in, we have a sorta logo, but I don't really know how to add in a logo for the feed, it depends how each client looks for a logo.

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Jus bought the bundle.
Kids have been dying to play this so I'll try tonight and session it this weekend with them

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You should include feed links in this post :)

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/podcast_rss_mp3.php
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/podcast_rss_ogg.php

EDIT: And you need a logo for the podcast, at least for the feed that I don't get the generic Pocket Casts logo. ;)

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Nice ^_^

Let's see if it'll launch! - I'll let you know in 1m 5s

Annnnd: Missing Executable

Back to coding... :/

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Overlord II
I can launch the game but it's in english, and I want the game in French. Any idea ?
The game is working with xbox360 controller but not listed in description.

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Just done the benchmark for talos in 4k with my new gtx 1070 :

Opengl average of 70fps
Vulkan average of 150fps

Both in ultra settings

Awesome :-)

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Quoting: dmantioneIn this case the use of "PC" can be seen as correct: If Microsoft succeeds to close the software part of PC's, why keep the hardware open so people can escape to Linux? Microsoft ARM based hardware is already closed.

No, he's specifically talking about Windows and Microsoft possibly forcing people to use the Windows store. It is not PC, it is Windows.

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I've been really disappointed in Epic with the development of Paragon. They used the Unreal engine that was supposed to be cross-platmorm compatible then added proprietary code and now they won't make a Linux version because they don't have the resources to test it and they're not sure they can port that proprietary code to Linux. It's the dumbest excuse I think they can make. So I can't see how they can make a statement like that about Microsoft when they are essentially doing the same thing. Agghhh!

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