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Quoting: CharlieTheMadHatter- Moving toward increased ad revenue and partnerships (adding sponsored content/ads in Firefox and related services), raising concerns about monetization vs. privacy

- Heavy financial dependence on Google search-default deals (large portion of revenue from Google), raising conflict-of-interest and independence concerns

See, they do not really want to be dependent from google, but all other alternative funding methods failed or get user revolt! Adding some default bookmarks or simple ads to the default page that have no user tracking or "personalized" is fine for me, if do give mozilla some money and don't really affect my privacy. i don't like ads, but as long as i can ignore them if i want, it is not a issue. I can't demand mozilla to stop accepting money from google and have no other funding source!

i bet this AI is also another way to try to get some funds, like higher AI limits or something like that. As long it is optional, they can try it

Quoting: CharlieTheMadHatter- Removing or deprecating user-favored features and products (e.g., Pocket shutdown, ...) that alienated loyal users

- Accusations of questionable third‑party partnerships (e.g., monitoring/identity services, ad/analytics vendors) and integrations that conflicted with earlier privacy commitments

Again, when pocket was integrated in firefox, many people complained... now they they removed it, many people also complains.
most people over react to anything that is done. For instance, the cloudflare dns... it is optional, it works really well, it have no user tracking (cloudflare do aggregate what sites people access, but not what one individual user do... and do it for security, not for ads or sell), it can be changed to any other DoH service. Not everyone need it, but for many people this is a great feature. yet, people that don't like it complain a lot while people that do like it usually are silent.

Trying to prove that a ad service can exist without tracking was a great idea... but just reading mozilla and a ad service make a agreement triggered everyone in rage without even knowing the details. No where mozilla said that they would add a tracker to firefox, but that was what people assumed!

it is easier to complain (specially when only know half of the story) than to report it is a good decision

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Fuck. Is there a Firefox fork that supports DRM for Spotify, Netflix, HBO Max etc?

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about:config
browser.ml.enable -> false
problem solved

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I'm using Orion on my mac and iphone, and really liking it. It's made by Kagi, and uses webkit as its renderer. They do also have an AI assistant, but its totally separate and not built into the browser. I'm very much looking forward to their linux release.

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They better stick to that part about letting people disable that stuff. If they try to force it, especially if they force it on the browsers that use Firefox as a base, like Zen (Which is what I use), then I don't know what I'm going to do because I absolutely do not want to go back to a chromium based browser.

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Now that i came to love it - can anyone forecast what this would mean for a fork like librewolf?
They surely would take that out, will they? Can they?
I never got this. If i want a hammer, i want a hammer that does one job: hitting nails to where i want them. Nothing else. These amalgamations of one thousand different "features" can never do one thing well.

If this keeps on happening, i'll be back on mutt, lynx & irssi. Oh, and my C64 should arrive soon, they can do interwebs too, i guess.

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If they really wanted to give us privacy and agency in how we use it, they would give us a very simple opt-out for all AI features.

No, they would deactivate all AI features, until we simply (without dark pattern shit) opt-in for them.

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browsers I've found that don't seem to have AI plans.

https://servo.org/ (rust, new rendering engine, in progress)
https://ladybird.org/ (c++, new rendering engine, in progress, founder may be sketchy)

https://apps.gnome.org/Epiphany/ (gnome, WebKitGtk)
https://www.falkon.org/ (kde, qtwebengine)
https://apps.kde.org/konqueror (kde, qtwebengine)

https://salsa.debian.org/debian/w3m (text mode)
https://lynx.invisible-island.net/ (text mode)

forks of firefox
https://www.torproject.org/download/ (says they'll remove AI, intended to be used with Tor)
https://mullvad.net/en/browser (fork of tor browser, but can connect to regular internet via VPN)
https://librewolf.net/

I'm not sure what's up with chrome/chromium based forks.

I haven't really tried the KDE options in a while, epiphany was able to log into some work websites that used duo for 2 factor.

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The article say it already:

"AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off."

if they allow one to turn on or off the AI, all fine to me
AI can be useful, but it is not something any one keeps always on and too dependent

Between a TLDR article that i read only the top lines and a "summarize this" (only when i want)... guess what is better!

it is just like the translator, not needed most of the time, useful on some situations.

Now lets hope is that adding AI do not break other stuff, something is a optional feature, other is shove in your face

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It's sad to see Mozilla making the same bad choices. Prioritizing shareholder profits seems to come above everything else.

Lest we forget:

- Rewriting Firefox Terms of Use / Privacy Notice with broad licensing language (appeared to grant Mozilla rights to user input; caused major user backlash; subsequently revised)

- Moving toward increased ad revenue and partnerships (adding sponsored content/ads in Firefox and related services), raising concerns about monetization vs. privacy

- Heavy financial dependence on Google search-default deals (large portion of revenue from Google), raising conflict-of-interest and independence concerns

- Leadership controversies and contentious executive appointments (e.g., Brendan Eich 2014 CEO appointment controversy over prior political donation)

- Removing or deprecating user-favored features and products (e.g., Pocket shutdown, Fakespot removal, UI changes like Proton tab removals) that alienated loyal users

- Product regressions and reliability/performance regressions reported by users (pages/apps breaking, higher memory use, regressions in performance)

- Accusations of questionable third‑party partnerships (e.g., monitoring/identity services, ad/analytics vendors) and integrations that conflicted with earlier privacy commitments

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I don't care about their third commitment, provided they're true to their first commitment which will allow me to turn all that AI shite off.

However, even the commitment to AI is depressing. As another comment before this noted... there are so many better ways to use their resources than cram unwanted AI features into what's almost the last bastion of non-Google browsers.

Edit... I've just read the post and their "double bottom line" manifesto, and it's clear that their going all in on AI. Goddamit. Time to look for another browser.

FUCK! (sorry) So angry.

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Quoting: kuhpunktWhat does that even mean.

It means you will use AI and you will like it. There is no escape. Consume!

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What does that even mean.

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I'd rather see them replacing Gecko with Servo and implementing Vulkan rendering instead of all this AI nonsense.

Hopefully Servo based browser will become a thing eventually, with Mozilla or without.

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As to timing, obviously it will be out in March. Otherwise they'd be calling it "April of Giants" or something.

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Yuk, so we're left with a few webkit reskins and ... lynx?

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Some people, when seeing such success, wonder how they can monetise it better. Team cherry wondered how they could better thank their fans.

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For once I have no problem with this, I mean rubbish belongs in the dumpyard if you catch my meaning.

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I've cleaned up the comments a little after having time to think about the language being used here. Please try to stick to the rules, and refrain from being intentionally inflammatory. We have people from all countries reading, let's play nice. Thank you.

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Piss off Ubishit, despicable monster destroying everything they touch. Yves and the entire board/Guillemot family should be in prison for crimes against humanity and all IP's they have taken hostage released to better hands.

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Makes sense, it's feature complete and superseded by RTX Remix.

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Has the term "RTS" become so taboo at this point, that we have to designate this game as "a MOBA where you lead an army of soldiers" instead?

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I hope they sell it on GOG or itch eventually, my daughter is kind of young and still uses my Steam account, I don't want to have to explain this game to her 😆

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Letting random people decide the name of a subgenre hasn't gone well in the past. That's not far from how we ended up with calling games like Deus Ex "immersive sims", a phrase completely synonymous with "good videogames".

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Quoting: tmtvlDo I? After hours of breaking my brain I don't have the mental capacity for knowing which century it is, let alone which day of the week.

I don't even know where I'm at right now.

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Quoting: PhreezeBut is it really necessary? usually you KNOW what day it is

Do I? After hours of breaking my brain I don't have the mental capacity for knowing which century it is, let alone which day of the week.

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Love the Amiga demoscene style music!

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Quoting: lilovent

Quoting: tpauThe question is how can we keep the almost monopoly of Steam in check and balance it out?
I buy my games only on Steam if there is no other option.

The answer is simple: provide competitive good enough services and shopping experience that are on par at least with Steam.

If any other game shop does not want to provide that or cannot do that, they won't get better market shares.

For example, Epic is still burning Fortnite money and any of their underhanded tactics did not work out, instead of treating customers better.

Steam does exactly that, that is providing in comparison to other stores the best services.

Steam's behavior is so interesting.
They behave themselves as a monopolist that fears anti-trust law, which is such a weird situation.

You know Valve's reputation of "winning by doing nothing".
That's how you win as a legal monopolist.
Let the economy of scale and ages of product refinement carry you, because a reaction would by definition be anti-competitive(quite literally you take actions to minimize the amount of competition you face).

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It took them 43 releases to realise they needed more formal testing procedures? Wow, that's rather amateur to put it mildly.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: ArehandoroI got it on my wishlist, but haven't bought it yet. Maybe for the Xmas discounts :)

If you are into point and click, it is the must-have-played of the year, it seems.

I am! Fab, thanks, will get it for sure then.

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