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I don't find any real issue with it. I don't mind throwing a few extra dollars their way, for the purpose of keeping the GOG Preservation Program alive. People don't typically work for free. I'd rather support their work, making my time easier and less of a hassle trying to get older games to work properly.

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I couldn't imagine going back to X11. With Multimonitor setup and how smooth it is, I tried X11 a while back and just couldn't coem to grips with the sluggishness of dragging a window across my desktop.

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The last 32bit Linux I used was maybe Peppermint OS or maybe PCLinuxOS. If Fedora drops 32bit support, and we don't run Steam in a container, I am assuming, even if Steam itself was upgraded to 64bt, many games like the early Call of Duty games, will not work anymore? I know that Call of Duty on Mac worked for a long time on OSX Snow Leopard and when Apple dropped 32bt support, that game wont' run at all. Is that the type of situation we are running into now but with Linux?

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To me, this only means more work for RPMfusion, which means "same as before but unofficial," as most RPMfusion contributors are also Fedora package maintainers... So this decision would actually increase maintainers burden, but at the same time would bring awareness around the subject.

Either way I don't think we are going to be forced to change distro, but I could be wrong...

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Horrible news, Bazzite is based on fedora, they will have to find another umbrela distro, or maintain a lot of extra stuff.

Other than unmaintained legacy software, they should not exist anymore. There is simply no good excuse for not having ported your application to 64 bits, if you're still working on it in 2025.

i think modern compilers target 64 bits by default, so you have to put some extra effort in order to support people with old machines, wich is a good thing actually...

i mean, there is no reason why an pixel art indie game shouldnt work on a potato pc that some poor people have in some country who barely have eletricity and internet , let alone modern computers.

i think we are entering another flash vs kill flash, x11 vs wayland discussion...

i recomend this presentation for anyone thinking legacy dont matter, but i dont think its your case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65crLKNQR0E

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I don't think it is. From the article:

The Steam version is free but it has "optional non-recurrent purchase for users who want to unlock additional features or support development".

That's non-recurrent.

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Other than unmaintained legacy software

. . . Of which there is probably quite a bit. Specifically relevant to this forum, nearly all older games are "unmaintained legacy software".

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I bought the soundtrack to go with it. At 99¢ USD, why not? Plus more music is always nice.

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Works fine on my OpenSUSE Tumbleweed system. I would make a reasonable one-time payment for this program, but since it's subscription-only I will deal with the nag screen!

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They shouldn't be made, or they should cease to exist?

Other than unmaintained legacy software, they should not exist anymore. There is simply no good excuse for not having ported your application to 64 bits, if you're still working on it in 2025.

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I dunno it works fine for me on Kubuntu 25 and on the Steam Deck

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Does it support the incredible official NES port of Alwa's Awakening?

https://eldenpixels.com/alwas-awakening-nes/

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Despite this update, the game remains rubbish, these new features are of no interest...

We want the gameplay of version 5 and earlier.

Civilization VII is not fun to play. It's a boring, poorly developed and incomplete game.

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They will lose a lot of users with such future plans...

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Bonehead idealogical decisions like this potential one is one of the major reasons I have stayed away from Fedora.

no good reason why 32 bit applications should still be a thing in 2025

Who says? The followers of a progress-first ideology that was founded on maximizing corporate profits at the expense of all other benefits? All that has done is to create a throwaway culture that fails to value anything from the past.

This is not supposed to be what drives Linux development. Torvalds has always said that what makes Linux stand out is it's backwards compatibility. Why should Linux ape the mentality of the for-profit sector?

Valve should go full 64bit, and drop/integrate the 32bit requirement/legacy.

You may feel this is a good idea but that does not mean that Valve agrees. There could be a very good reason they have not done this (don't ask me what, I have no idea myself).

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Flatpak Steam has a whole bunch of its own issues and is not supported by Valve, it's not a direct replacement. 
The RPM package is not supported either.
Valve made some non-official contributions to the Flatpak package and nothing for any other than the official Deb for Ubuntu and Steam client implemented in SteamOS.

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But there is seriously no good reason why 32 bit applications should still be a thing in 2025

They shouldn't be made, or they should cease to exist?

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As an orthodox Silverblue user, I support this.

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I think having the discussion about dropping 32 bit is a good thing, even when the decision probably needs to be "not right now". But there is seriously no good reason why 32 bit applications should still be a thing in 2025, and maybe distros publicly thinking about moving on will be a much needed wake-up call for Valve and others.

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This isn't only about Steam.

I have several (many?) non-Steam Linux-native games that are 32-bit only. Some from early Humble Bundles, others purchased retail. They still work for now on Fedora.

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The dev that posted the inquiry is right, this needs to change at some point or another, and doing it ahead of time to give people time to fix issues, etc is better than running like a headless chicken and do a crappy workaround in 2 weeks.

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Sorry for my bad englisch.

For me, all Zelda parts are still the best games

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After two decades, you can safely assume (the mother of fuckups be damned) that most of your userbase uses the "new" technology.

That's not the problem. The users do have it, yes. But the games of the last decades don't magically turn to 64 bits.

Maybe some light virtual machinery can solve this in the future?

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There's these tons of games needing 32 bit anyway?!?

Is there though? 32 bit Windows games can be run on 64 bit Wine / Proton without the need for 32 bit libraries. In my experience, the vast majority of native games are already 64 bit.

I've been running 64 bit only for two years now, and have yet to come across a game I can't play.

Valve needs to join the 2010's, and move the Steam client to 64 bit.

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Valve should go full 64bit, and drop/integrate the 32bit requirement/legacy.

And, tbh, so should WINE.

AMD64 is 22 years old, x86-64 is 21 years old.

After two decades, you can safely assume (the mother of fuckups be damned) that most of your userbase uses the "new" technology.

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Also hang on, isn't Steam's RPM provided by RPMFusion ? I imagine those guys can just ignore this decision and carry on bundling whatever is necessary to keep Steam running and call it a day, right ?

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I just tried it in Steam and it shows the banner, then crashes.
This is on the Steam Linux runtime 3.0, so it should provide a sane set of system libraries.

Running it directly on my Fedora system results in a segfault :-(

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Awesome, i will for sure try this out.

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Picking one favorite would be incredibly tough.

Mega Man 2, Contra, Castlevania, Akumajou Densetsu (okay, it's Famicom, but that counts..), Life Force/Salamander, Ninja Gaiden 2.. there's quite a bit of good games on the old beast.

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Steam is solving that with Linux Runtime containers, so there is no need to have Steam itself run 32 bit.

And these go without 32 bit libraries...?
Or are we looking forward to Valve caring for all those?

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