Quoting: Klaas

Quoting: JarmerBoilingSteam specifically says this about Manjaro:

“… I’m confident … probably …”

Yes. Probably confident. I agree that Manjaro has done unfortunate things.

Then again what distros have not? Some dropped using pure Arch after they moved to systemd which was found unfortunate with some (insane reason IMO but yeah they did).

Arch seems to be best as a BASE (like SteamOS) rather than a distro (which it's also kind of is not since user chooses what's to be installed, apart from few things).

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How was this even possible? Isn't SteamOS immutable for its boot to start with?

I hope something serious was technically learned now to not repeat this possibility ever again by a SINGLE GAME.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: dziadulewiczI just wanted to check it out, i have no real need for this software.

Sure. You just didn't want to do it the way the dev helpfully told you to do in the instructions:

Quoting: CoolerControl GitlabThe AppImages are helpful if you want to try things out without installing anything.

An AppImage is a single file that contains the dependencies. No need to install anything. I pointed you towards the deb instructions because you were trying to install the deb.

Also "dependency hell" doesn't mean what you think it means.

If the installation is not a simple couple of clicks as it very often nowadays though is, it's a no for me. End of story. Not tinkering. No sir.

This was enough "dependency hell" for me (whatever you mean it specifically means, don't care, not the point either). Maybe you enjoy tweaking and tinkering, fixing and reading instructions to get something installed. That's ok and cool. But do not expect that from others automatically, please?

AppImage? Will not touch those, sorry. And like i said already: no big deal as i don't need Cooler Control. And thanks for your concern.

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Quoting: doragasuLooks cool, but was going to install it from the AUR package, and it has a ton of Python dependencies plus some Node and Rust. Too many for a relatively simple tool.

So even an Arch user skipped this app because it would have been a chore to install, one way or the other :shock:

I think the developer should be contacted. How many similar cases does Linux ecosystem have? The number #1 thing with a released application: make sure normal people can get it installed. The more users, the more bug reports and other reports (to make software better). Nuff said phew

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: dziadulewicz

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: dziadulewicz

Quoting: olaulau

Quoting: dziadulewiczSo where can i find a deb, snap or a flatpak to install this? The Gitlab page is a convoluted mess!? :dizzy:

https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol/-/releases [External Link]

Thanks alot! Tried to install the deb but of course it doesn't work:

!https://imgbox.com/kllVViHm [External Link]

It's so sad that a simple install of (also) this app has not been secured or then the package is just broken.

The UI package you're trying to install depends on the daemon package, which is why it fails if you try to install it like that. You'll find detailed install instructions in the Readme on the main page of the Gitlab repo:

https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol#debian [External Link]

Ok, i then tried to install the daemon package, but it gives the exact same dependency error message. So i can't install the dependency to start with what the UI package is dependent on.

Something is wrong, it shouldn't be like this at all installing a simple app :sad:

You'll have better luck if you just follow the instructions.

See that's the thing isn't it; one shouldn't have to read a wall of text to get a simple app installed :grin: so something is most definitely amiss here. I can't be bothered nowadays if a deb (or snap or whatever) doesn't just fly after a click. That being said; that dependency hell could be avoided with a snap package that includes all that's needed. Sane and simple.

I just wanted to check it out, i have no real need for this software. Thanks for your concern in anyways.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: dziadulewicz

Quoting: olaulau

Quoting: dziadulewiczSo where can i find a deb, snap or a flatpak to install this? The Gitlab page is a convoluted mess!? :dizzy:

https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol/-/releases [External Link]

Thanks alot! Tried to install the deb but of course it doesn't work:

!https://imgbox.com/kllVViHm [External Link]

It's so sad that a simple install of (also) this app has not been secured or then the package is just broken.

The UI package you're trying to install depends on the daemon package, which is why it fails if you try to install it like that. You'll find detailed install instructions in the Readme on the main page of the Gitlab repo:

https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol#debian [External Link]

Ok, i then tried to install the daemon package, but it gives the exact same dependency error message. So i can't install the dependency to start with what the UI package is dependent on.

Something is wrong, it shouldn't be like this at all installing a simple app :sad:

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Quoting: olaulau

Quoting: dziadulewiczSo where can i find a deb, snap or a flatpak to install this? The Gitlab page is a convoluted mess!? :dizzy:

https://gitlab.com/coolercontrol/coolercontrol/-/releases [External Link]

Thanks alot! Tried to install the deb but of course it doesn't work:

!https://imgbox.com/kllVViHm [External Link]

It's so sad that a simple install of (also) this app has not been secured or then the package is just broken.

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So where can i find a deb, snap or a flatpak to install this? The Gitlab page is a convoluted mess!? :dizzy:

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Oh dear, then there is this:

In an unexpected move, Linux Mint 22 downgrades some of its preinstalled apps to older versions — not something most of us would expect when installing a newer version of a Linux distribution!

Why has this happened?

Many of the latest versions of these apps adopt GTK4/libadwaita for their UI, which Linux Mint dislikes, feeling it impacts the look, feel, and integration of apps with the rest of the non-GNOME desktops like Cinnamon – they stand out like a sore thumb, basically.

As a result, many apps have been downgraded to older GTK3 builds.

:neutral:

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/07/linux-mint-22-released-based-on-ubuntu-24-04 [External Link]

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Quoting: PondaMint ships Cinnamon's experimental session by default and while buggy and incomplete, it's already quite usable

Buggy and incomplete is "usable" :huh:

Using for example Ubuntu under Wayland is SOLID. Mint team and Cinnamon are obviously behind the times, sorry to say because Mint is a very good distro otherwise. Mint is always still behind Ubuntu by a mile :neutral:

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