^^ Dude, don't buy their games if you don't like the missing support. Steam page clearly states which GPUs and drivers are supported. And latest Feral games support STABLE MESA, no need to compile from git.
The games run extremely well on the OSS drivers. Even AMD employees actively contribute the gallium3D drivers, indicating a clear focus to MESA rather than PRO driver.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: babai

The itch.io store and application have come a long way in a very short amount of time.

Pick one :)

I don't get what you mean, pick one what?

Just what Luke_Nukem said above, electron apps make rapid UI development rather easy for devs, it gives them all sorts of freedom in designing but comes at the cost of being bloated and without proper integration.
On the other hand, in a Qt app you'd find tight desktop integration but design freedom is not as extensive or easy for devs.
So you can only opt for any one aproach, the best of both worlds is not there (well maybe QML is there).

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Quoting: Luke_NukemSure, good app. But it's a fucking nightmare to package. And if you don't package it and build/install from source, it pulls in a metric ass-ton of shit.

This is why I hate JS and NPM.

STOP FUCKING WRITING DESKTOP APPS IN IT!!!

The itch.io store and application have come a long way in a very short amount of time.

Pick one :)

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Quoting: liamdaweYou should remember not everyone uses Linux for just freedom, there's many reasons. You should just accept others choices and move on. Not everyone needs a lecture and we don't need an AMD topic derailed because of it :)

Sure Liam! that's why I said earlier that if you use linux for whatever other reasons, its completely fine.
Ohh and can you please benchmark some games like Mordor with the latest patches? (the one's claiming 25% improvements for bioshock infinite)

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Quoting: grenadecx

Quoting: babaiIf you are using Linux for freedom/open source idealism, ideologically you SHOULD buy AMD products and not tell me how a 1060 overpowers an RX480 today. AMD had no obligations towards supporting MESA or opening up millions of lines of DPM code for their chips. They still did.
Support a company that supports your platform.
If you don't follow the open source philosophy and using Linux just because you like say the millions of widget themes it supports or for any other reason, buy Nvidia.

Oh please. "SHOULD buy" - are you kidding me?

Linux is all about freedom, and now you are telling me what I should buy? So much for freedom. Thanks.

This is for those who are are proponents of freedom. If you use Linux for the freedom, and still buy Nvidia products(which are as closed source as they can be, remember the famous middle finger?!) for a 20% performance improvement then you are a hypocrite.

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. --Benjamin Franklin

You tell us that you're all for freedom, and don't support a freedom friendly company... that makes you a hypocrite.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: babaialso this fix will probably go into the radeonSI userspace driver and not MESA.

Forgive me if I am wrong, but isn't radeonSI part of Mesa?

Also, it's Mesa not MESA isn't it? http://www.mesa3d.org/ [External Link] "The Mesa 3D..." :)

Yeah, I should have probably written "Core Mesa".

I would have labelled you a grammar nazi, but since Linux is case sensitive, you're right, it should be Mesa. :)

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Quoting: michaUnfortunately, DotA2 crashes my whole system if using the -vulkan switch since I updated after running for 30sec or so..

For me dota 2 crashes with the Intel vulkan driver with the vulkan launch option. I turned off the steam overlay and the game doesn't crash anymore.

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I Agree that customers should expect proper performance right now and not wait for another year, also this fix will probably go into the radeonSI userspace driver and not MESA.
Still, AMD has contributed much code to MESA in the past years, show me some from NVIDIA (no please not any Tegra DRM code)?
If you are using Linux for freedom/open source idealism, ideologically you SHOULD buy AMD products and not tell me how a 1060 overpowers an RX480 today. AMD had no obligations towards supporting MESA or opening up millions of lines of DPM code for their chips. They still did.
Support a company that supports your platform.
If you don't follow the open source philosophy and using Linux just because you like say the millions of widget themes it supports or for any other reason, buy Nvidia.

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From the benchmarks I see that Feral have fixed much of the performance issues in SOM. If they would fix the same for COH2, I'll probably buy it.
Feral take note, people like me who have mid/low end graphics cards are missing out the fun because of some of your under-performing ports. A bit of optimization and we'll be on board.

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Quoting: wojtek88

Quoting: babai(...)does anyone know if the linux version would be a compiled wrapper port like other feral titles(...)

You need to distinguish Feral Interactive and Virtual Programming. VP does ports with their EON wrapper, Feral does real porting to native Linux function calls. So we will receive first day one native port done by 3rd party. And we're all excited :).

Feral ports are still D3D to OGL convertions which is why performance penalty is there with feral games. I want to know if the XCOM2 engine is built to support OGL natively from the get go or not.

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