Quoting: BielFPs

Quoting: EikeThey could make the display optional. Those who care (and should know what it means) can switch it on.
I don't think they need to, though.

Mostly the same situation:

-Opt-in: The majority of users will never activate it, "defeating" the purpose of putting it in the first place.

It defeats the problem you're seeing in not publishing the results:

risk people asking for refund (deck) after discover that "games are not working in this console".

Want to know what runs before buying the Deck? Activate the option, have a look.

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Quoting: BielFPsTry to imagine the developer / publisher side situation: You're selling your game in a store which bites 30% of each sale you do, and suddenly your game is now advertised with the mark of shame in the store because of the lack of support for a OS that you didn't intended to support (for whatever reason), and this can give the idea for some customers that there's "something broken" in your product (even if this does not affect you like windows players), because you can't expect every consumer on steam to know what that mark means.

They could make the display optional. Those who care (and should know what it means) can switch it on.
I don't think they need to, though.

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Quoting: ArehandoroFor me, the key point is here:

"System Support - If running through Proton, the game and all its middleware should be supported by Proton. This includes anti-cheat support."

Emphasis is mine.

Does that mean a game can be verified for Windows on Steam Deck but not Linux/Proton? If that's the case, I don't see that going down too well...

No, it means they still can be Linux native.

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Quoting: GuestSo, this is essentially a Proton whitelist 2.0. The one that Valve have abandoned after a couple of Proton releases.

I do hope that native Linux games will get their check and hopefully their badge early.

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Quoting: BielFPsEven so, there are literally thousands of games on steam, and manually reviewing them will take a lot of time. Remember that this situation is different from something unofficial like Protondb, because this seal is Valve officially stating how well the game runs on deck so they can't mess up with it.

You're putting it mildly. Over 10000 games have been added to Steam in 2020 alone!

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Quoting: Phlebiac

Quoting: elmapulone nice thing to have would be: auto detect what compatibility tool may work with an game.
eg: dosbox, luxtorpeda, proton, retro arch...

I don't know how it could be implemented, but... "yes please"

There might also be technical solutions by looking into the game binaries, but Valve could just gather the data which game is run under which tool for how long and default to the one used the longest in sum.

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Quoting: GustyGhost

Quoting: EikeOr maybe they're looking beyond their own nose. Like caring for environment.

Bitcoin is not an effective currency.
It quickly degraded into an object of speculation.

The same banking system which formulated that argument to peddle to joe normie in actuality uses much more energy. [External Link]

I happen not to be a banking system. I'm Eike. (You're trying to devalue arguments by assigning a source that you perceive as non reliable. That's not valid arguing.)

The data you've shown is terrible - for Bitcoin. The banking system is keeping the world running, while Bitcoin, as said, is not an effective money system to begin with. The one is used for a reason, the other is - literally - dust in the wind. (Which, by the way, was my argument which you didn't really react to. Not valid arguing either.)

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Quoting: GustyGhostI suspect that a good portion of the gamer crowd is salty about cryptocurrency because of their experiences with inflated GPU prices.

Or maybe they're looking beyond their own nose. Like caring for environment.

Anyway, does anyone remember nearly a decade ago when you could actually buy games on Steam with Bitcoin? The glowies shut that down pretty quick. The state can't have people using sound currency.

Bitcoin is not an effective currency.
It quickly degraded into an object of speculation.

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Quoting: foggerYou can already play those games easily on Linux with DOSBox. I don't know why they are selling those games on Steam or GOG when most of those those games can be downloaded for free, legally, at archive.org.

It's only legal if the companies have explicitly said so, which doesn't happen too often.

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Just installed Debian stable yesterday. I guess I'll take a look in 2023. :)

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