Quoting: GuestI’d buy Dirt Rally if it wasn’t full of ingame ads.

Unlike all the other licensed sports games? Sponsor ads are sadly part of the experience.

I hate ads but Dirt Rally is totally worth it. You won't have time to look at the ads. You'll be too busy crashing into them and losing a wheel or two.

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So it's like a (faux) voxel tech demo? Would it be so hard to think of some optional goals at least to keep players interested? I love exploration in games and I don't mind casual experiences either, but I need something to work towards. I lost interest in pure sandboxes around the time I got too old to play in actual sandboxes. YMMV.

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Quote25 levels of pure mishap

Well that sounds unfortunate.

Not sure about the game based on the trailer. I'll be waiting for your review I guess.

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Quoting: tuubiIt's simply too optimistic to think your average gamer would go through the hassle of installing a new operating system just to play a single game, Rockstar or not. Not that any sane publisher would support Linux and not Windows even as a weird publicity stunt. And we all know that Rockstar is all about mass market appeal, just like Ubisoft and EA.

Really because I know people that bought wii U to play mario kart and they don't own any other games, No i know that hence the hypothetical argument it would never happen. If you do not know what hypothetical means it means in theory like for example in theory you could pull Angelina Jolie it would never happen but it is a hypothetical scenario.

Hypothesis is a scientific term, meaning an educated guess at an explanation for a phenomenon. What you're describing is a fantasy. Not my fantasy btw.

Anyway, I know people who wouldn't hesitate to buy an expensive console to play a single game, but think messing with their PC's operating system is something arcane and scary, and much less appealing than walking to a shop and spending a bit of cash. They might perhaps buy something like a Steambox for that game, but wouldn't be any more inclined to use Linux after they're done with it. Nobody cares about the operating system on their console as long as it works. Well okay, we do, but we're not a representative sample.

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Quoting: Whitewolfe80

Quoting: lijuThis is purely hypothethical, unreal comment.. but just imagine RockStar decides to release Red Dead Redemption 2 on consoles and PC Linux only. How would the world react? Would there be unity among the PC windows players to switch over to Linux or rather cry, that rockstar newest engine iteration focuses on Linux instead of windows?

I think in the situation you describe they would dual boot but at least they would try linux.

It's simply too optimistic to think your average gamer would go through the hassle of installing a new operating system just to play a single game, Rockstar or not. Not that any sane publisher would support Linux and not Windows even as a weird publicity stunt. And we all know that Rockstar is all about mass market appeal, just like Ubisoft and EA.

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This is depressing, but as long as their bundles give us the option to decide who gets what, even dropping the "humble tip" entirely, I might still buy a bundle once in a blue moon. And if they come up with a proper indie bundle with great Linux games, I don't see any reason not to support that. Also no reason to give up on your game library at Humble. You've already paid for them, and Humble already got their cut.

I'm happy to hear people are giving up on their Monthly Bundle subscriptions though. I was never quite comfortable with the concept.

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I've played a bit of Dying Light, some Dirt Rally (the GOL league every week and a few of the dailies), and Pillars of Eternity with my wife. I'm really enjoying all of them. Oh, and I've also been playing some Borderlands 2 in co-op with friends. Normally I wouldn't go near a grindy FPS game like this, but the humour makes it all more than worth it. Granted I miss most of it, trying to keep up with friends who are better at shooters and who have already seen it all.

Quoting: groundhog_day86Dying Light struggles to stay above 60fps on my gtx960 but its still playable

Same problem here. I did notice that this is one of the few games where killing the compositor (compton) actually makes a big difference. I just got the game recently, and I'm still puttering around the slums, but so far it's been just fine that way on high settings at 1080p. Don't know or care about the exact fps though. VSync is off and Nvidia's full composition pipeline enabled to get rid of tearing.

This game is not easy by the way. I really don't like the freaky buggers who roam at night. They don't seem to like me either. I wonder what I did to make them so angry.

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Quoting: lidstahBut I do agree on the fact that this kind of distro is more oriented to people who knows (or who want to know and thus pay the price for knowledge) the inners of their operating system and who like tinkering with it ("Oh, a problem? nice! let's solve it!" ). Obviously, people who want an "it just work" solution should head to more user-friendly distros - which is perfectly fine, no elitism intended.

My comment had nothing to do with how difficult these distros are to use and maintain.

Rolling release distributions do not provide a stable target for developers to test on, which means it's harder to commit to long term support. Being source-based adds its own set of variables to this equation. It's much easier to promise support for a specific release of Ubuntu for example. If a game is tested to work on Ubuntu 16.04 now, it's quite likely it will work on Ubuntu 16.04 in half a year. That's all I meant. No room for elitism in this discussion.

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Quoting: tofuhead

Quoting: nanohazardWill it support Arch Linux tho...

is it that different from the rest of the distros?

It's a rolling release distribution, and those don't make for stable targets.

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Quoting: appetrosyanNow consider two scenarios: one with our current state of affairs and one I proposed.
A) "Well, you have some good games, like Deus Ex Mankind divided, but not Human Revolution (the good one), you have almost no complete franchise ports. Everything runs (at best) 5% slower than on Windoows, we only support the most counter-FSF GPU designer (nVidia), all thanks to using a (bad) Winwows wrapper (SDL). We do have Wine, that runs stuff better, but it's not officially supported. And yes, if the game runs on one of the three officially supported native game engines, you should expect Graphical glitches and maybe 2% fewer FPS. No exclusives. In fact, games that do come out, do so weeks after release."

B) "You can run almost any game that you could on Windows. You sometimes have to do some work in order to get decent FPS (about 25% slower on average), but almost everything on DX9 runs as good as on Windows. It uses the exact same files, so should have pretty much the same capabilities. Also Valve have Half Life 3 exclusive to Linux and their console. A couple other exclusive games too".

Wouldn't you agree that the latter case

No. The first one shows you don't really know what you are talking about, and the second one shows you're not cut out for marketing. I mean "like windows, but slightly worse for gaming" isn't much of a slogan, and not even true. Linux is different, and that's a strength, not a weakness. Also I don't think platform exclusives would be a good idea.


This thread seems to have attracted the gloomiest bunch of killjoys in our community. Cheer up guys. Play a game or something. We're doing just fine. :)

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