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Ubuntu now has a community-built PPA for stable versions of Mesa
16 December 2016 at 1:34 pm UTC
EDIT: Of course you were talking to Samsai, not me.
16 December 2016 at 1:34 pm UTC
Quoting: DuckeenieHope you will consider publishing your findings. :)If you're talking about mine, I'm sorry to say I didn't bother saving the results after my informal tests. They were done on impulse and I didn't think there was anything useful to report. Basically everything I tested performed within a percentage point or two of each other in the few real-world tests I did, and my Xfce installation was running a tweaked Compton as the compositor so not exactly OOTB. There might have been slightly bigger variation on my work desktop with the Intel Haswell iGPU than my i7 / Nvidia gaming box, but I'd never game on the work machine anyway. I only did it on both systems because it was easy (had a spare SSD with all the desktops installed and configured) and I was curious.
EDIT: Of course you were talking to Samsai, not me.
Ubuntu now has a community-built PPA for stable versions of Mesa
16 December 2016 at 12:54 pm UTC
16 December 2016 at 12:54 pm UTC
Quoting: SamsaiQuite possibly one of the reasons these reports might not be representative. Also the reason why I added the "on my hardware" qualifier to my own test results.Quoting: tuubiIt's likely that the performance disparity is not nearly as apparent on stronger hardware. Phoronix seems to have used Intel integrated graphics while the other test used Radeon R7 integrated.Quoting: DuckeenieWhich is why I used the other link in the first instance... The point is two independent tests show that XFCE is slower when gaming.And a quick googling will produce tests where it isn't. In my own tests on my systems against Mate and a couple of others left Xfce somewhere in the middle with insignificantly small differences overall (on my hardware at least), so I saw no reason to ditch the DE I'm most comfortable with.
Ubuntu now has a community-built PPA for stable versions of Mesa
16 December 2016 at 12:29 pm UTC
16 December 2016 at 12:29 pm UTC
Quoting: DuckeenieAnd a quick googling will produce tests where it isn't. In my own tests on my systems against Mate and a couple of others left Xfce somewhere in the middle with insignificantly small differences overall (on my hardware at least), so I saw no reason to ditch the DE I'm most comfortable with.Quoting: tuubiQuoting: DuckeenieThe Phoronix test uses Ubuntu's default settings with the compositors enabled.Quoting: tuubiQuoting: DuckeenieI loved XFCE until I found out it was the slowest desktop for gaming even with compositing off.That benchmark is far from scientific though. Seems like every single test gets conflicting results.
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Don't know why you say conflicting results, XFCE comes last in every single test. Scientific or not without counter-evidence it stands. :P
Phronix did similar tests too.
Which is why I used the other link in the first instance... The point is two independent tests show that XFCE is slower when gaming.
Ubuntu now has a community-built PPA for stable versions of Mesa
16 December 2016 at 12:18 pm UTC
EDIT: Data gathered by non-scientific means doesn't become science simply because nobody tested properly.
16 December 2016 at 12:18 pm UTC
Quoting: DuckeenieThe Phoronix test uses Ubuntu's default settings with the compositors enabled.Quoting: tuubiQuoting: DuckeenieI loved XFCE until I found out it was the slowest desktop for gaming even with compositing off.That benchmark is far from scientific though. Seems like every single test gets conflicting results.
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Don't know why you say conflicting results, XFCE comes last in every single test. Scientific or not without counter-evidence it stands. :P
Phronix did similar tests too.
EDIT: Data gathered by non-scientific means doesn't become science simply because nobody tested properly.
32-bit Linux distributions are no longer supported by Steam, Steam Web Browser disabled
16 December 2016 at 12:14 pm UTC Likes: 2
16 December 2016 at 12:14 pm UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: Doc AngeloIf you bought Steam games for your 32bit system and you can't access them anymore, you essentially lost them.The only thing anyone lost is the integrated browser though. If you can't access your games on a 32-bit system, that's a bug. The games-as-a-service model still sucks of course.
Ubuntu now has a community-built PPA for stable versions of Mesa
16 December 2016 at 12:00 pm UTC
16 December 2016 at 12:00 pm UTC
Quoting: DuckeenieI loved XFCE until I found out it was the slowest desktop for gaming even with compositing off.That benchmark is far from scientific though. Seems like every single test gets conflicting results.
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Nvidia 375.26, 340.101 and 304.134 driver releases are now available
16 December 2016 at 8:38 am UTC Likes: 1
16 December 2016 at 8:38 am UTC Likes: 1
Why do Ubuntu users install manually when there's a PPA maintained by Ubuntu staff? A mystery for the ages. Or at least for me.
Nvidia 375.26, 340.101 and 304.134 driver releases are now available
14 December 2016 at 8:19 pm UTC
EDIT: I'm slow.
14 December 2016 at 8:19 pm UTC
Quoting: WaikanoWhat's considered "pretty old hardware"? - Q9550 w/ NVIDIA 680.Anything before the GeForce 400 series, so much older than yours. The GPU driver doesn't care about your CPU.
EDIT: I'm slow.
Nvidia 375.26, 340.101 and 304.134 driver releases are now available
14 December 2016 at 6:36 pm UTC Likes: 1
The PPA works fine, and I'm in no hurry.
14 December 2016 at 6:36 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: WorMzyDeus Ex now seems to work properly (I loaded up the game, but didn't play for long while testing). I also opened up 20 instances of glxgears without issue, so I think they've addressed the big bug 375.20 introduced, but whether they've fixed all the regressions remains to be seen.I guess it's fixed then. Good news for KDE Plasma users. Weird that this got no mention in the release notes.
Quoting: ShoNuffCommand line it if you don't want to wait: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-375.26.runThanks, but I know. :)
The PPA works fine, and I'm in no hurry.
Wine 2.0-rc1 released, also showing progress towards Overwatch working in a future Wine version
14 December 2016 at 6:31 pm UTC Likes: 1
That's what I was trying to point out in my previous comment. This is not a community split into Linux zealots and dual booting pragmatists. We're just a diverse bunch of people who like games and like to play them on Linux, for all kinds of different reasons.
14 December 2016 at 6:31 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: Purple Library GuySorry, but there really are some people who are willing to endure inconvenience for a principle, and it is the mark of a very small person to pretend they are lying in an attempt to bring them down to one's own level.I don't need to endure anything, and I'm not using Linux for the "principle". If anything, I run Linux for the convenience. Linux works for me, and no game is worth the pain in the neck that is Windows.
That's what I was trying to point out in my previous comment. This is not a community split into Linux zealots and dual booting pragmatists. We're just a diverse bunch of people who like games and like to play them on Linux, for all kinds of different reasons.
Quoting: ShoNuffMost of us will probably be playing this on wine though... to be honest.I don't think that many of us will. But then again, the game doesn't seem at all interesting to me, so maybe we're both projecting. But more importantly, I don't see why people would even be dishonest here. What would they gain? You must understand that blanket accusations of lying might just rub people the wrong way.
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