Quoting: slaapliedjeI grew up somewhat poor, inherited clothes from my older brother, father and brother are mentally ill. I still managed to turn my interest in computers into a well paid career. The USA is one of the few places where that is perfectly possible.

Would you believe this is actually even more likely in countries where education is free or at least very affordable? Saying this as a fellow professional nerd who grew up relatively poor.

Statistics on complex issues like this are tricky, but you might consider the social mobility index [External Link] to be relevant.

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Quoting: KlaasThat's wrong. I enjoyed Quern very much.

And they are re-doing Myst every few years. And they've started to do the same with Riven (2024).

Quern was inspired by Myst based on their Kickstarter blurb.

I get that you're not a Cyan fan, but you'll be happy to learn that based on the first few minutes of gameplay, the puzzles in this game aren't very Myst-like.

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Quoting: Klaas

Quoting: tuubiA Myst-like with Day of the Tentacle style puzzles wouldn't be a Myst-like.

Why? What about Quern? And Obduction? What is a Myst-like?

Spoiler, click me

Does it have to have the exact same puzzles? Is that why Cyan keep remaking all their games all time?

Quern and Obduction are are clearly Myst-likes, and "inspired by Myst". One of them is even made by Cyan. I enjoyed both of them.

Referring to your spoiler, why do you think the puzzles are the same in all Cyan games? Because the mechanics are often similar? Are the puzzles in every classic Lucasfilm/LucasArts adventure the exact same ones as well?

You know what? Don't answer. I don't think this discussion is going anywhere. You don't enjoy games in this particular genre and wish the developer had made a point-and-click adventure instead. I guess that's fair, but not very productive.

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Quoting: KlaasIt's not about the perspective. It's about the puzzles.

I wasn't impressed with the puzzles in Myst.

My point was that you're comparing two very different game genres. A Myst-like with Day of the Tentacle style puzzles wouldn't be a Myst-like.

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Quoting: KlaasIt looks good, but I'm concerned about the Riven/Myst inspired line. I'd prefer something inspired by Fate of Atlantis or Day of the Tentacle.

As an enjoyer of both genres, I'd say you're already pretty well served as a point-and-click adventure fan. New quality releases coming out regularly.

We don't have too many Myst inspired first person narrative puzzle games though, and pretty much none in this particular style.

EDIT: I went to wishlist the game on Steam, but it was already on my wishlist.

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Downloaded the demo. "Missing game executable".

To work around this, open the game install directory (Manage -> Browse local files), create a directory called bin, then symlink or copy SternlyWordedAdventures.AppImage to that directory with the name SternlyWordedAdventures.

EDIT: The dev has fixed the path and the workaround is now unnecessary.

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Quoting: Caldathras

Quoting: hardpenguin

This appears to happen across drivers 550, 555 and even the latest 560.

Yet again I am grateful for Debian Sid maintainers keeping me on the 535 line

Ditto for the Linux Mint maintainers. Also on the 535 line (at least, for LM 21 -- haven't upgraded to 22 yet).

Mint 22 inherits 550 from the Ubuntu 24.04 base. But several older driver series are also available in the repositories. 550 isn't forced on you.

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Quoting: rambo919On one hand the brain does not make the same distinctions as we do, on the other hand behaviorally you wont do something either virtually or really unless you are capable of doing both.

No, because I've always understood that games are not real. And so do you, hopefully. They're not even very good simulations of reality. No amount of pseudo-psychology is going to change that.

Your theory echoes the various moral panics in relation to gaming we've seen since the eighties. All of them equally unfounded.

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Quoting: dziadulewiczDry Crumbs= USA
Revontuli= Finland
Holzberg= Germany

Didn't catch what's the 4th location though.

Based on the traditional buildings and their history of hosting rally events, maybe Indonesia?

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Quoting: rambo919

Quoting: tuubiThe function of most games psychologically is to entertain the player.

By acting out scenarios. You would never kill or rape someone virtually if you were not capable of doing so in person. To reverse it if you cannot do something in person you could never force yourself to do it in a game. The entertainment comes from virtually doing what you physically cannot, the fact that it's entertaining is linked to the purpose of games being preparatory for real life things. You enjoy doing things in games that you might do later in IRL the same way you enjoy other things IRL that benefit you, that's how endorphins work.

None of this is true. I can kill someone in a game only because I can easily make the distinction between a bunch of pixels and a real human life. If endorphins are released, that's because I succeeded in a challenge provided by the game and am rewarded for my effort with points, loot, whatever. Not because I think I just murdered a person. You're way out of your depth with this sort of armchair psychology.

Quoting: rambo919

Quoting: tuubiSome games do aim to play out scenarios and allow you to learn without risk, others are just a bit of fun or harmless wastes of time. And regardless of the scope or aim of the game, you're always secure in the knowledge that any consequence is purely virtual, and it's perfectly safe and acceptable to make decisions you'd never willingly make in real life.

That's a self deception. Anything you would willingly do in a game where there are no consequence you would do IRL under the right conditions. The same way many people think themselves "good" just because they have never done anything truly evil.... yet. There exists no such thing as a "good" human as history and any large jail has proven.

Have you considered that maybe you're just a nihilist?

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