Quoting: GuestI can't think of a single project that clashes with everything Unix more than Flatpak.

How so? It's debatable if it even needs to adhere to a philosophy from the 70s, but I mean, the UNIX philosophy isn't some abstract feeling, it's four specific points. Which one does it clash with so badly? I mean the point about one program being an input to another maybe, but that applies to most gui apps not written in the 70s. If it's the part about one tool doing its thing very well, flatpak is made up of ostree, bubblewrap, etc. It isn't some huge monolith. I find "Unix" and "Unix philosophy" and the like gets misappropriated a lot to basically just mean "thing I don't like."

If you just mean that it's big, that you don't like repackaging a bunch of stuff in user space . . .

- statically linked binaries have been a debate for decades
- Linux itself (no one wants to die on that microkernel hill anymore?)
- BSD chroots anyone
- Docker
- Kubernetes
- a huge amount of apps where the client and server are distributed as one binary, eg everything Hashicorp

I would in fact argue that 45 years later, flatpak and most of these tools are *very* UNIX like, to paraphrase Brian Kernighan:

What makes UNIX so powerful is that it decouples how the program is written, what language, what style, etc from the environment around them. A bunch of tools combine to create a coherent environment. Is that not exactly what flatpak does in 2023?

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Quoting: TuxeeI have yet to understand the usefulness of lighting with opaque keycaps...

(Apart from that I wouldn't like the cursor keys arrangement and the lack of a proper ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdown block.)

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Quoting: mattaraxia

Quoting: TuxeeI have yet to understand the usefulness of lighting with opaque keycaps...

(Apart from that I wouldn't like the cursor keys arrangement and the lack of a proper ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdown block.)

It's actually really great. When you hit either function key to activate another layer, just the keys active in that layer light up, with a different color for each layer.

(I have the first gen launch, and love it so much I registered just to answer that question.)

The complaint is not about the RGB lightning but that the keycaps are not shine through, so you can't see the legends in the dark. The key caps also appear to be a non-standard size, so you can't replace them with something off the shelf.

No I get that, that's the point. I'm not sure how to put this that doesn't sound a bit snarky, but I thought it was implied -- people who need to see the keys to type aren't exactly this keyboard's target audience. I interpreted Tuxee's point as, given that, why bother with lighting?

It's a really niche device. It's ok if it's not for you. I can hit the key I want just as well blindfolded (it does have old school little ridges to help you find the home row) but it is sometimes nice to visually see what layer I'm on.

There are reasons to look at a keyboard other than not being a proficient typist.

Right? But no one's saying they're not? Just that this one isn't? There are thousands of keybaords on the market, it's ok if this one is not for you?

I'm really not sure what you're getting at. The point was there is a reason for the lighting other then lighting the glyphs, and it is not obvious until you use it. If that reason isn't for you, cool man, no one is suggesting otherwise. Get a different keyboard, there are plenty of choices.

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[quote=Mountain Man][quote=mattaraxia]

Quoting: TuxeeI have yet to understand the usefulness of lighting with opaque keycaps...

(Apart from that I wouldn't like the cursor keys arrangement and the lack of a proper ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdown block.)

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: mattaraxia

Quoting: TuxeeI have yet to understand the usefulness of lighting with opaque keycaps...

(Apart from that I wouldn't like the cursor keys arrangement and the lack of a proper ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdown block.)

It's actually really great. When you hit either function key to activate another layer, just the keys active in that layer light up, with a different color for each layer.

(I have the first gen launch, and love it so much I registered just to answer that question.)

The complaint is not about the RGB lightning but that the keycaps are not shine through, so you can't see the legends in the dark. The key caps also appear to be a non-standard size, so you can't replace them with something off the shelf.

No I get that, that's the point. I'm not sure how to put this that doesn't sound a bit snarky, but I thought it was implied -- people who need to see the keys to type aren't exactly this keyboard's target audience. I interpreted Tuxee's point as, given that, why bother with lighting?

It's a really niche device. It's ok if it's not for you. I can hit the key I want just as well blindfolded (it does have old school little ridges to help you find the home row) but it is sometimes nice to visually see what layer I'm on.

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Quoting: TuxeeI have yet to understand the usefulness of lighting with opaque keycaps...

(Apart from that I wouldn't like the cursor keys arrangement and the lack of a proper ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdown block.)

It's actually really great. When you hit either function key to activate another layer, just the keys active in that layer light up, with a different color for each layer.

(I have the first gen launch, and love it so much I registered just to answer that question.)

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