Quoting: rea987It's alright, let me remove it from my wishlist.

But if it works with proton, why now? It's not like you could have played the sequels natively too before. So instead of sticking with only the first as native port might as well commit to go full proton for the series.

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Now I'll have an excuse to redeem TBS 2

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Quoting: BrisseHaven't really gotten into any of these card games (except The Witcher 3 minigame :D ). I was mildly interested in this as a potential entry point, but then I learned...

Additional packs of cards will be $1.99, each pack has 12 random cards. You will also be able to buy and sell cards on the Steam Market.

...that it has gambling mechanics. No thanks.

In fairness, this is exactly how physical trading card games work. You buy packs of cards and get random cards inside.

I know, but that doesn't make it not gambling.

It isn't gambling because you always get something for your money though, this is how loot box type micro transactions skirt around gambling.

Legally speaking, sure, but spending money to get something that may or may not be entirely devoid of value to you, or whose value is essentially random within limits, in addition to being arbitrary and subject to changes made to the game, is hardly better than risking your money in a game of chance. At least in most games of chance, you can walk away with your money and your earnings aren't designed to keep making profit for "the house," unlike Valve taking a cut of every subsequent trade in this case and controlling your Steam wallet. Unlike WotC with MTG, Valve owns the entire ecosystem this game exists in. You may or may not get your money's worth in entertainment, but you will definitely not make any real money out of it. So I would agree that it is not gambling in that sense, but arguably it is worse than gambling.

This applies to every single purchase you make on your steam account though, you can't make any real money because you can't transfer anything on your account short of selling the whole account.

It is gambling even though it's using a loophole in most legislations. Countries like Belgium has actually started classifying it as gambling and I hope the rest of the world follow in their footsteps because things are getting out of control.

"you can't make any real money"
That is wrong. People trade digital assets, both on Steam directly and through third party's. Rare CSGO skins have been traded for tens of thousands of dollars.

It is still not gambling. The case of Belgium applies to loot boxes though which have the same mechanics but a wider pool of stuff you can win, in the case of Artifact you always get a pack of cards with the same chance of getting the same types of cards, just like in any other TCG as pointed by others.

Regarding making any real money from steam by bypassing steam is a clear violation of TOS and steam has been cracking down on sites that do it.

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Quoting: BrisseHaven't really gotten into any of these card games (except The Witcher 3 minigame :D ). I was mildly interested in this as a potential entry point, but then I learned...

Additional packs of cards will be $1.99, each pack has 12 random cards. You will also be able to buy and sell cards on the Steam Market.

...that it has gambling mechanics. No thanks.

In fairness, this is exactly how physical trading card games work. You buy packs of cards and get random cards inside.

I know, but that doesn't make it not gambling.

It isn't gambling because you always get something for your money though, this is how loot box type micro transactions skirt around gambling.

Legally speaking, sure, but spending money to get something that may or may not be entirely devoid of value to you, or whose value is essentially random within limits, in addition to being arbitrary and subject to changes made to the game, is hardly better than risking your money in a game of chance. At least in most games of chance, you can walk away with your money and your earnings aren't designed to keep making profit for "the house," unlike Valve taking a cut of every subsequent trade in this case and controlling your Steam wallet. Unlike WotC with MTG, Valve owns the entire ecosystem this game exists in. You may or may not get your money's worth in entertainment, but you will definitely not make any real money out of it. So I would agree that it is not gambling in that sense, but arguably it is worse than gambling.

This applies to every single purchase you make on your steam account though, you can't make any real money because you can't transfer anything on your account short of selling the whole account.

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Quoting: Keyrock

Quoting: BrisseHaven't really gotten into any of these card games (except The Witcher 3 minigame :D ). I was mildly interested in this as a potential entry point, but then I learned...

Additional packs of cards will be $1.99, each pack has 12 random cards. You will also be able to buy and sell cards on the Steam Market.

...that it has gambling mechanics. No thanks.

In fairness, this is exactly how physical trading card games work. You buy packs of cards and get random cards inside.

I know, but that doesn't make it not gambling.

It isn't gambling because you always get something for your money though, this is how loot box type micro transactions skirt around gambling.

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Quoting: SchattenspiegelHmm...menu and intro videos and character creation play nicely but I am stuck on the prepping for battle screen in the native beta :-(

Bug report browsing reveals quite a few similar issues in the windows version but I guess I will try to see if Lutris comes up with similar problems - another 7 hours download then ...

Have you tried adding LC_ALL=C %command% to the launch options? Fixed all the issues I had.

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Quoting: nitroflowHarebrained schemes(the actual developer, you know, not Paradox) as delivered on every single kickstarter they made, and linux release has also been delayed in past titles, so I don't know what most of you are on about?

Kickstarter of a multiplayer oriented game that said day one release. So much has been missed on this game (even things like preorder only content) for GNU/Linux users.
That's why I won't buy it full price. And GOG because I'll only play single player now (personal choice).

There was lack of communication, and unfulfilled promises. Finally having something doesn't negate that. That's what I'm on about anyway.

Fair enough, but that's not enough to take out the pitchforks and run to get a refund though.

I'm not suggesting refunds: kickstarter isn't a guarantee, it's more like an investment strategy, and it's up to each user to choose to be a backer.

Really hard to convey what I mean with just text, but I most certainly don't suggest pitchforks! Mostly just an analysis from me: I don't think that to an end user on GNU/Linux that the game is worth full price now. Reasons are important for feedback to HBS - if they want more money, give an earlier release and keep the promises made. And that's really all - but I stress this as a "feedback tone", not a "pitchfork tone".

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough but I wasn't referring to you specifically!

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Oh, and if anyone is experiencing any weirdness when they start the game, try the old LC_ALL=C %command%

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Quoting: nitroflowHarebrained schemes(the actual developer, you know, not Paradox) as delivered on every single kickstarter they made, and linux release has also been delayed in past titles, so I don't know what most of you are on about?

Kickstarter of a multiplayer oriented game that said day one release. So much has been missed on this game (even things like preorder only content) for GNU/Linux users.
That's why I won't buy it full price. And GOG because I'll only play single player now (personal choice).

There was lack of communication, and unfulfilled promises. Finally having something doesn't negate that. That's what I'm on about anyway.

Fair enough, but that's not enough to take out the pitchforks and run to get a refund though.

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Harebrained schemes(the actual developer, you know, not Paradox) as delivered on every single kickstarter they made, and linux release has also been delayed in past titles, so I don't know what most of you are on about?

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