Quoting: kit89

Quoting: liamdaweFor once, I am inviting discussion on it due to my own confusion on the legalities of roms.

That said, I still wont accept people talking up piracy like it's their right.

Discussing it is one thing, talking it up like it's totally acceptable is another.

Depending on the country you are in, making a rom (or backup) is not illegal. I believe this is the case for the USA and UK. Acquiring a digital copy of content you do not legally own is illegal.

If you own the content but download another persons backup, then you start moving into the morally grey area. I believe it is illegal in the USA and UK, however a lot of people consider it as acquiring the backup without all the effort.

As for the causes of piracy that is exceptionally varied. Some of the reasons I've heard are:
** People who wish to enjoy content but cannot afford it.
** Children unable to afford it and/or the parent denying it.
** People wish to own content that can no longer be legally acquired.
** Self-entitlement (any non/excuse will do).
** Not on preferred platform.

I'm curious whether the length of copyright (protects the content for 95 to 120 years) has encouraged piracy.

Actually, reading up on it, a private copy was made legal and then quickly re-made illegal in the UK. So in the UK all forms of copying copyrighted content are still illegal, which essentially makes roms illegal in the UK (unless approved or provided by the developer/publisher). That actually makes me really sad to see that the UK is so bloody backwards.

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Quoting: badberThere are actually rules that forbid simply discussing the ethics of piracy on this site? Wow. That seems... Orwellian.

Our rules are available above the comments box with a link, it's in bold, hard to miss.

Nothing against discussing it, but to repeat myself again, we do not accept people talking up piracy like it's their right.

This is a Linux/PC gaming website, we cover mostly commercial games, I don't want to see people talking about ripping developers off.

I feel, however, roms are a different battleground as it's usually from games/systems no longer sold.

Edit: The main thing is, I don't want to read comments about people talking highly about how they pirate, that's the main issue. Simply discussing it reasonably I have zero issues with.

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For once, I am inviting discussion on it due to my own confusion on the legalities of roms.

That said, I still wont accept people talking up piracy like it's their right.

Discussing it is one thing, talking it up like it's totally acceptable is another.

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Quoting: ElectricPrismHere's my entry - I edited my post on page 1 to include it aswell - it's 4k so it should scale to 1080p and 1440p well.

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While I think it is very cool, I wouldn't realistically be able to use it due to the inclusion of art from games. It's a big grey area when it comes to such things. Very cool design though and I'm sure others would love to use it!

Same goes for ~2 others I saw earlier, I can't use art directly from games (unless they have a clear license to expressly allow it somewhere).

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UPDATE

I have updated the initial post to make everything as clear as possible :)

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Quoting: liamdaweHope everyone is cool with that, if not feel free to remove it :).

I’d rather have mine under CC0.

Since that allows me to do even more, i see no problem having it as an accepted license.

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Quoting: MohandevirWhat about BPM for SteamOS?

That's not really a desktop environment, it's literally just Big Picture Mode being run almost by itself.

Yeah but this way we could know who's running desktop Linux and who's using a Steam Machine.
Steam Machine adopters are not going to switch to Linux just because they use SteamOS on their ConsolePC... they will most probably stay with Windows or Mac or whatever OS they used before.

IMO it's important to know how many people use BPM exclusively since they get a whole different experience.

You make a good point, sonce SteamOS is an included Distro in the list, it makes sense for me to add it. Will do so tonight. I imagine it will be so low it wont even make the graph though.

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Quoting: ElectricPrismWould it be better to say Desktop Shell instead of Desktop Environment or Window Manager? Does it communicate better what it is?

Desktop Environment is the more widely accepted and used term. Desktop Shell sounds confusing.

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Okay guys as requested as it is a good idea, all items will be under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ [External Link]

Hope everyone is cool with that, if not feel free to remove it :).

Also, as noted in the competition, please make sure you keep the image as an easily editable file format so that the winner I pick I can easily edit and change size as needed. Including it as a jpg or whatever is fine for showing it off in comments, but I do need the source file at the end :)

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Quoting: poke86Will they drop support at release like they did for Dead Island though?

While the issues with that are concerning, Deep Silver own the development studio, so there should be no such issues.

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