Quoting: Eike

Quoting: slaapliedjeSo if you're doing it for A/B, I could see people saying 'dude, all your efforts are for not, and you suck!' being something that'd give you reason to rethink your approach. But there is 'You suck!' and 'You currently suck, but maybe do this a different way and it'll improve' comments.

Maybe, but both are bad. Like in... very bad.

How about:
* "The software sucks." (still not helpful)
* "The software is very interesting, but I see the following ways it could be even more helpful..."

For sure. The problem is some people take any sort of criticism as bad. That was what I was thinking the original question was leaning toward.

I figure once I start doing the thing I've been planning for a long time, I'm sure I'll get 'you suck' a lot, as it'll be dealing with something people are rather passionate about (role-playing games). So I'll likely have to do a bunch of follow-up videos on such things. Oh well, such is life.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: ShabbyXI mean, you kind of insulted chowder too, by making this analogy, lol

Ha, I mean my point was, if you're writing software, you're either A) doing it for yourself. B) doing it for fame and glory C) doing it for money D) multiples of the above.

So if you're doing it for A/B, I could see people saying 'dude, all your efforts are for not, and you suck!' being something that'd give you reason to rethink your approach. But there is 'You suck!' and 'You currently suck, but maybe do this a different way and it'll improve' comments.

An example; at the point of how many times Teams has made a change, and it's always ended up being worse than it was before.. they should just stop and make a contract with some other chat system, as if they buy another one, they'll just ruin it somehow (see Skype, and... well so many other companies MS has bought, and then made crappy). Don't do what they do. :)

Let's add option E doing it because you want to contribute to the open source community without being abused. Not everything someone does is for themselves I know that's a hard concept to grasp. You keep coming back to Microsoft and putting them down like it's still 2008. What is your point exactly? Let's use Linus Torvalds more intelligent than either you or I could ever hope to be most likely. Linus use to like to brutally insult Linux Kernel contributors because they are human and make mistakes. It's a dangerous thing for the open source community to be aggressive towards the people that make it happen as those people and I'm sure many have say piss on you all I'm going to work for a corp, and you can work and pay for my efforts. When you have that happen enough times you're not going to have an open source community. The project of mine I keep referring to is my contribution back to open source and a way for potential employers to see my abilities. However, there are many many developers that do what they do for no personal gain, so your options you listed are a little short sighted. I will take your advise and just ignore people. I need to get back to focusing on technology and not people's primal behavior as my mentor taught me. Please reply in anyway you see fit I'm done with this thread said my piece.

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If you had to use Microsoft Teams, and it how they randomly change how code blocks work all the time, and they try to add formatting to it (like stripping empty lines), or breaking copy and paste functions, etc. Or Windows 10 having a feature where if you shake your mouse while dragging a window, all of your other windows get minimized... and the only ways to turn that off are either to completely disable window snapping, or use the global policy editor (Enabling "Turn off Aero shake window to minimize") or via a registry change...

The only reason I know any of that is personal experience. When you are forced to use such things, you get bitter. This isn't even anything to do with them being proprietary, or against open source, etc. It is just plain bad usability.

And let's not fool ourselves. Sure you may start off with just trying to contribute and help out, and that is great! But unless you do it all anonymously, in wich case there is always the problem of people not trusting the code, but eventually there will be fame, and hopefully glory!

By the way, I think I found someone with even worse usability than Microsoft, and that is Qualys.

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Quoting: ShabbyXI mean, you kind of insulted chowder too, by making this analogy, lol

Ha, I mean my point was, if you're writing software, you're either A) doing it for yourself. B) doing it for fame and glory C) doing it for money D) multiples of the above.

So if you're doing it for A/B, I could see people saying 'dude, all your efforts are for not, and you suck!' being something that'd give you reason to rethink your approach. But there is 'You suck!' and 'You currently suck, but maybe do this a different way and it'll improve' comments.

An example; at the point of how many times Teams has made a change, and it's always ended up being worse than it was before.. they should just stop and make a contract with some other chat system, as if they buy another one, they'll just ruin it somehow (see Skype, and... well so many other companies MS has bought, and then made crappy). Don't do what they do. :)

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Quoting: Kuduzkehpani guess i will stick with kde+ubuntu thus deb repos are really large. hardware support is realy good on ubuntu also i feel every ubuntu realese is faster than the first one. and i have so few bug experienced in Ubuntu. Only thing that drives me out of ubuntu is default Gnome-shell desktop basicly i hate it. Also i like to check Deepin linux in some time.
but beyond these i really like to install and test google's Fuscia os on my pc
because it seems some important projects will be supported by Fuscia as default like VULKAN api. and that os will be cross-hardware. One os for all.

The problem is, Ubuntu's desktop is NOT the default Gnome one. They add a bunch of stuff, which in my opinion is unnecessary. Then again, I also take my macbook and move the dock to the left and hide it... The dock is pretty damned pointless to always have in the way, just makes it so you have less screen for things that matter... like the actual applications you use...

My attitudes have changed over the years as far as computers and operating systems go. Most of the time I want to do things like browse, email, and use productivity stuff. And of course games. And really whatever OS / DE makes it easier to just launch things and go, the better.

If I want to mess around with themes, widgets, customization of the desktop... I'll boot up my Amiga. :P

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Quoting: jensCool, I hope Fedora works for you, I’m more than happy with it since several years. Fedora shines with its Gnome integration (which I use), but don’t know how well the KDE integration is set up.

I was amused when I watched a video that was trying to push the idea of not suggesting different distributions, and instead to suggest people use something based on the desktop environment. I sort of agree. If trying to convert someone over, we should ask what the person is looking for. Based on these questions, you suggest the 'best of breed' for the DE, and be sure to ask if they want stability or continuous new features.
For example; if someone wanted simple, out of your face system where you can just launch applications and get work done, I would suggest stock Gnome. If they wanted new features over stability, I would suggest Fedora over Debian.

If they want complete customization, I would probably suggest Suse over Fedora, with KDE. At least it used to be a great KDE distro. Not sure how great it is now.

I kind of miss Xandros, but that might be the Tequila talking...

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In my experience, Fedora is a great system when you first install it. But inevitably when you do updates, for some reason it randomly breaks things. They're usually small things. Like suddenly the touch screen scrolling stops working in Firefox, or auto rotation on a tablet breaks. Since they are niche use cases, it's weird that the out of the box install is fine, but then an update breaks it.

The bit about nvidia drivers? They ARE easy to install. Enable rpmfusion repo, yum install them, and reboot. Done.

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Quoting: razing32

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: GuestWish someone would sell me James Bond 007: Nightfire and The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II. :unsure:

I still have my Battle for Middle Earth collection that has the two of them. I think the last time I tried them in Wine, they failed, and I believe that in Win10 they are broken.

Well , not sure i won't get a ban from Liam , but i know for a fact there are torrents with whole collection working fine on Win 10.

Ha, it is one thing to say 'you can find pirated shit that is patched!' And a totally different thing to say 'and here's how!'

The thing I find hilarious is all the talk of Abandonware. Some say that it isn't a real thing, and people who pirate shit (which mind you is copyright infringement, not theft, as theft means you no longer have a thing. While it may be argued that you are stealing revenue, those arguments assume the software would be purchased in the first place. And even if not, it is depriving someone of revenue, as again stealing means you had possession of it in the first place) are terrible individuals!

But, in my opinion; if you can no longer purchase something, and you aren't going after those who distribute it. It is indeed Abandoned. Whether that gives the right for people to freely copy it or not is certainty up for debate. But I want to ask the question..

If no one is able to get some game and play it in the future, is there any reason to acknowledge its existence? How many games did MS instakill by removing SafeDisc support? Made it so people had to pirate or cd-crack the game, even if they had previously bought it!

Quoting: CFWhitman

Quoting: razing32Did he finish it ?
I'd like to buy the books but i don't want anything incomplete.

I'll give you my take on this:

Robert Jordan knew that he was terminally ill and added extra notes to his outline so that someone whom his wife would choose could finish the story for him. That someone turned out to be a young Brandon Sanderson, who has since established himself as a great fantasy writer in his own right (some of his other books are very, very good, among the best fantasy I've read).

Some people make the claim that Robert Jordan went into tremendous detail about scenes and people like Charles Dickens, while others will point to the prologue and epilogue of one of the books and say that he had a verbose style.

As far as I am concerned he did neither of these things. The details he gives are important to the story, and he only uses the style of writing in the prologues and epilogues in those places. I've never seen a whole chapter devoted to clothing and jewelry.

In fact, some of the early books are among the best in the series, like the first volume, The Eye of the World, the second volume, The Great Hunt and the fifth volume The Fires of Heaven.

However, what Robert Jordan did do was get bogged down in story details (not description details) during the middle volumes. He created so many story threads and extra characters that it was hard to keep track of them all. One volume in the middle has no climax (I don't remember which one offhand, and I don't want to wade through them to remind myself). In the end of course, many of the curious extra characters and story threads are just left without resolution, but don't let that deter you; they are minor characters.

What Brandon Sanderson did was bring the story back into full focus and restore what was great about the beginning of the series back to the end.

As far as I'm concerned the very end of the series was OK, not fantastic, but satisfying enough. Of course the characters in the series were extremely well done throughout.

I read the first book. I honestly couldn't tell you a single thing about it except that he described the flora and fauna extremely well! I think I remember something about a farm boy being forced to leave by monsters, and that us about it. Granted playing RPGs, I had similar backgrounds on a character before I read the book, as it is a pretty common theme in history, or old fiction where a young nobody can grow to greatness. Hell it is the plot to Fable as well.
But after I read the 800 pages is when I asked my friends that told me I MUST read them.... and they said what he was up to... well, I gave up. I think at the time I had gotten tired of Fantasy novels and started reading non-fiction and science fiction.

But now I think it is time to read the Lankhmar books!

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Quoting: razing32

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: GuestWish someone would sell me James Bond 007: Nightfire and The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II. :unsure:

I still have my Battle for Middle Earth collection that has the two of them. I think the last time I tried them in Wine, they failed, and I believe that in Win10 they are broken.

Well , not sure i won't get a ban from Liam , but i know for a fact there are torrents with whole collection working fine on Win 10.

Ha, it is one thing to say 'you can find pirated shit that is patched!' And a totally different thing to say 'and here's how!'

The thing I find hilarious is all the talk of Abandonware. Some say that it isn't a real thing, and people who pirate shit (which mind you is copyright infringement, not theft, as theft means you no longer have a thing. While it may be argued that you are stealing revenue, those arguments assume the software would be purchased in the first place. And even if not, it is depriving someone of revenue, as again stealing means you had possession of it in the first place) are terrible individuals!

But, in my opinion; if you can no longer purchase something, and you aren't going after those who distribute it. It is indeed Abandoned. Whether that gives the right for people to freely copy it or not is certainty up for debate. But I want to ask the question..

If no one is able to get some game and play it in the future, is there any reason to acknowledge its existence? How many games did MS instakill by removing SafeDisc support? Made it so people had to pirate or cd-crack the game, even if they had previously bought it!

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: wit_as_a_riddleThe amount of work they've done in a month is very impressive. It annoys me to no end when I see people posting on reddit about how "astonishing" it is when they don't have this feature or how exceedingly disappointed they are then it doesn't have that feature. Follow that up with "I really can't believe that this isn't fixed by now" when the device has been out for a month! Enough hyperbole, they are making improvements constantly, how about a pat on the back and a feature request rather than shitting all over them?

Most people expect a pat on the back for their efforts, but they rarely return the favor unfortunately. I'm working on some open source software that I'm hesitant to release as I don't know how I'll react to ungrateful people... May make me just give up as that's just how I am. It can really make someone sick when you spend not hours but months or years and have people be toxic. Big props to the open source developers that keep going while being insulted and bullied by ungrateful users.

P.S. I realize there's a difference between suggestions / constructive criticism and just plain bitching.

Just do what Microsoft does. Ignore everyone that tells you your software sucks, and just do what makes you happy.

(like that? I get to throw in a dig about MS while also giving sound advice!)

Thank you have opened my eyes. Makes me want to curl up in bed and wrap myself with Windows server 2008 R2 and .Net. How wholesome. :grin:

Ha, my latest Windows 10 gripe... it's been bugging me for years that seemingly randomly my application windows would all minimize. Hit me the other day and I was whining about it, and a co-worker pointed out to me that it is a 'feature' where you can click on a window to move it, and shake the window and it'll minimize everything else! And because I use a high DPI mouse, a simple hair or crumb on the mouse pad can cause a 'shake', so I'd just randomly trigger that.

Best part is, to disable it; you either have to completely disable Window snapping, use the group policy editor (which the wording is "turn off Aero shake window to minimize" and check 'Enable' because 'Disable is a double negative...) or with a registry edit...

And I can't tell you how many things in Teams is broken...

But seriously, there will always be people that whine about things. And the worse part of it is that for people who will use your software and it works for them, they may give you an 'awesome, keep up the work!' but the ones that want to use it, but find issues here and there are more likely to be the more vocal. I've thought many times about developing some software, and personally if people just told me it sucks without any reason of why it sucks, then I'd just tell them to move along then, nothing to see here...

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Quoting: razing32

Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: const

Quoting: GuestI quite enjoyed Wheel of Time, and was reminded of it recently from the "tv" series adaptation (which I also enjoyed). Not yet read any of the books. Safe to say that I'll be snagging that one. I know it doesn't have a native version, but for games that old I'm not exactly expecting it. That's what I use wine for.

Had you read the books (it's the most epic saga I've ever read), you probably wouldn't have enjoyed the series. It's a horrible adaption, yet it seems like it might not come of as horrible without the reference. :D
So, don't read the books until you finished the series or just switch completely. But be aware it's a long saga (~20000 pages iirc) with very detailed descriptions.

Ha, I read the first book, asked my friends how many books there were (at the time 7 was the answer) and I responded with "He is going to die before he finishes the story..."

Did he finish it ?
I'd like to buy the books but i don't want anything incomplete.

He did the exact same thing GRRM is doing with Game of Thrones. He completed up to a certain number of books... then started to do prequels.

Robert Jordan passed away before the last books were finished, and the last three books were finished by Brandon Sanderson.

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