Quoting: GuestMaybe you missed it, but the entire problem is that WINE/Proton encourages Linux gamers to buy and support Windows games that come with zero Linux support and from devs who don't care about supporting Linux.

This isn't entirely wrong, but you have to understand that people who aren't complete zealots will never give up Windows unless their favorite games run on Linux. You bash Proton as if the devil itself had coded it, but from my perspective, Proton/DXVK is what allowed me to abandon Windows for good. Feral and the handful of publishers that release native games couldn't do it. Valve did.

I am an MMO fan. If you think I'd no longer play MMOs just to make a meaningless political statement, you're mistaken. And the number of MMORPGs available for Linux that don't suck is exactly zero. I am happy to have Proton/WINE, because it allows me to play these games in Linux. I honestly don't gave a damn what runs them, as long as they run. I am not saying you don't have a point, as running Windows games in Linux will always be considered unofficial and unsupported by devs, and there is no guarantee that a game that runs in Proton today will still run after the next patch.

But I prefer that over having to dual-boot into Windows every single time I want to play the 95% of AAA games that aren't available for Linux natively. Proton might not allow me to get rid of Windows games. But it allowed me to get rid of Windows. And that's a good thing.

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In the Steve Ballmer era, I'd have suggested someone to go check the temperature in hell, but these days, I am not even surprised anymore. The new management's strategy is a lot less Windows-centric.

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Quoting: GuestYep, Valve and Microsoft have worked nicely together at hurting Linux and killing support for our platform. Valve made a real push towards Linux at first until they were bribed by a bunch of Microsoft suits that visited their headquarters a while back as reported by Michael of Phoronix. They slowed their Linux push and transformed into just helping Windows gaming, and the native releases slowed and slowed.

We're talking about the same Valve that made it possible to run most of its catalogue on Linux by just pressing a button, yes?

The proper response is No Tux No Bux. We don't get Linux support, you don't get money, the only thing they give a fuck about.

If you had 1% less money in your wallet, would you notice?

Glad to see the site full of Windows gamers bashing Linux gaming as usual, ensuring we stay the 1% by encouraging Windows gaming.

Carry on telling everyone here that as paying customers they don't deserve support for running games on Linux like other gamers get to enjoy on their OS.

I am not sure what you smoked this morning, but I have been using Linux since 1998. That I am not subscribing to your ridiculous conspiracy theory doesn't mean that I am Windows fangirl.

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Quoting: GuestJust want to point out that Wine has made it possible for a very long time, and I was playing most of my backlog of Windows games long before Valve got involved. Sure, Valve have invested money to improve quite a lot, but they didn't invent Wine.

In the pre-Proton, pre-DXVK days, WINE would work mostly for old games that the vast majority of people had no interest in playing anymore. DXVK was what made WINE viable for gaming again. And Valve is funding its development. Also getting anything to run in WINE involved a lot of tinkering and trial and error. I didn't even use it back then. Dual-booting was the way better approach.

And to try be objective, Valve only went with GNU/Linux investments as a way to not be entirely under Microsoft's thumb. Valve are doing it out of self-interest (and I'll also point out that being able to do that with GNU/Linux is a great thing, and a sign of the power of a truly open operating system and platform) - and the moment some of the threat from Microsoft disappeared, it did indeed look like Valve scaled back on GNU/Linux efforts.

That's correct. They are a business, not a charity. But as far as I understand it, the temporary lapse was because Steam Machines were an epic fail, and they needed to come up with something else. I suppose that's why they went down the alternative route with Proton. It looks as if they are still committed to Linux. To me, at least.

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Quoting: GuestYep, Valve and Microsoft have worked nicely together at hurting Linux and killing support for our platform. Valve made a real push towards Linux at first until they were bribed by a bunch of Microsoft suits that visited their headquarters a while back as reported by Michael of Phoronix. They slowed their Linux push and transformed into just helping Windows gaming, and the native releases slowed and slowed.

We're talking about the same Valve that made it possible to run most of its catalogue on Linux by just pressing a button, yes?

The proper response is No Tux No Bux. We don't get Linux support, you don't get money, the only thing they give a fuck about.

If you had 1% less money in your wallet, would you notice?

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I am no IP lawyer, but this seems so blatantly unlawful that it's not even funny. Trademarks on common words usually apply only to very, very specific uses. Such as Apple can claim the right to that trademark for electronic devices, but they can't prevent a grocer from calling that edible round thing an "apple".

I really think they are just betting on the fact that small devs have no funds to defend themselves against these trolls.

I agree with the first comment that IP law needs an overhaul and urgently so.

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I am sooo happy that AMD is a true choice again, so I don't need to worry about these guys open-sourcing their driver, or not. There is absolutely no way that my next PC will feature an NVidia-made GPU. NVidia is a textbook example why (near-)monopolies are bad, and also a textbook example for a thoroughly evil company.

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In in a time and age where people generally seem to prefer watching a 40 min YouTube guide over spending 3 min on reading text containing the same information, this game feels a bit out of place, haha!

I am looking forward to it. I loved text adventures back in the days!

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I guess it's as always - a price isn't too high if people still buy the stuff. If people are willing to spend more money on visual gimmicks than on the actual game, be my guest. Unlike loot-boxes, at least it's transparent and you know what you're getting for your money.

I still have a very low opinion about developers trying to milk their customers in that way.

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So essentially people are dissing on Feral for getting permission from a company to port a game to Linux, because the same company also happened to allow them to port their previous games?

That makes sense! *nods*

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/sarcasm

Seriously, I think people still mistakenly assume that Feral picks the games they port. From how I understand it, it's more that they have to beg them to let them do it, because nobody in big gaming business gives a flying fish about Linux.
I dislike the lack of AAA games on Linux as much as anyone, but the truth is that other than Square Enix and the Total War devs, nobody seems to be interested in Linux ports, so that's what Feral is porting.

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