The problem with their "no reason to ship a DX12 game" argument is that Microsoft has invested tremendous resources in DX12 (and DirectX in general) and won't let it go without a fight, and many programmers are already familiar with DirectX while they would have to learn Vulkan from scratch.

They can learn Vulkan, and building crossplatform just makes sense in today's market, but it's the Microsoft angle that's going to be the hardest to overcome.

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What the heck does "TWIMTBP" mean?

As for the rest of your editorial, you're missing the historical perspective. Things didn't reach their present state overnight. You see, AMD cards have always been second-rate performers going all the way back to when they were known as ATi and exclusively supported Windows. You say that coders can "get away with murder" on Nvidia cards, but isn't that evidence of a more mature API? And indeed, Nvidia has been a strong supporter of OpenGL from day one. ATi/AMD has often tried to persue proprietary solutions (like their recent Mantle experiment) which has caused them to perpetually lag behind Nvidia in terms of driver support and performance.

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Quoting: edve98Hell yeah!

But really, it is weird that it won't support AMD cards. The change log was the thing that pretty much confirmed it is coming to Linux.

Blame AMD and their craptastic drivers. It's been like this for years, even on Windows, and has cost AMD massive market share.

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Quoting: Leflmmh too bad that only NVIDIA is supported, would get that even if its a horror game and im afraid of horror games

I think this situation is not going to change, AMD sales are dangerously declining these last months (less than 20% market this year instead of 50% last year)

People act like it's Nvidia's fault when we should be blaming AMD for not stepping up their game.

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Quoting: zerothisLinux gaming does not begin and end with Steam.

No, but Steam has, by far, had the biggest impact on Linux gaming.

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Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: liamdaweSorry, but again, there isn't 1,000 quality Linux games on there, I can guarantee the actual number of quality games is well under 1,000 which is my point.

That's rather a matter of opinion, don't you think? I would be curious to know how you define a quality game.

Hence why it is an editorial. To everyone: If you have forgotten, an editorial is 100% my opinion, don't read it if you can't handle it ;)

I don't have a problem with you expressing your opinion. I'm just asking you to qualify that opinion.

It's not something to easily "qualify", since it will again be all my opinion, and to do it properly I would have to go through hundreds of games and note why I think they aren't very good, which is what all my general articles are for.

I'm not looking for a game by game breakdown. I'm just curious what are things that generally define a good game in your opinion as this could help explain why you're unhappy with the current state of Linux gaming.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: liamdaweSorry, but again, there isn't 1,000 quality Linux games on there, I can guarantee the actual number of quality games is well under 1,000 which is my point.

That's rather a matter of opinion, don't you think? I would be curious to know how you define a quality game.

Hence why it is an editorial. To everyone: If you have forgotten, an editorial is 100% my opinion, don't read it if you can't handle it ;)

I don't have a problem with you expressing your opinion. I'm just asking you to qualify that opinion.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: PeciskCan we at least change a tone? Seriously, I understand skepticism, I really do, but this is getting very tiresome. Gaming on OS X sucks...yet people play games on that platform and don't complain much.

Can at least celebrate this achievement a bit?

I'm with you. Two-years ago we were looking at the occasional indie release and hoping the next Humble Bundle would include Linux ports. Today we have over 1000 high-quality games literally at our finger tips, and deleting your Windows partition and gaming exclusively Linux is (finally!) a viable option.

Is it where we would like it to be? Of course not. The ideal is parity with Windows, but that's still rather far in the future. Is it a significant step in the right direction? Certainly! And we should be celebrating this unprecedented success of our favorite platform.

And before people sneer at indie releases, remember that today's indie developers will be tomorrow's mainstream developers, so we want them to continue being successful on Linux.

Sorry, but again, there isn't 1,000 quality Linux games on there, I can guarantee the actual number of quality games is well under 1,000 which is my point.

That's rather a matter of opinion, don't you think? I would be curious to know how you define a quality game.

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Quoting: PeciskCan we at least change a tone? Seriously, I understand skepticism, I really do, but this is getting very tiresome. Gaming on OS X sucks...yet people play games on that platform and don't complain much.

Can at least celebrate this achievement a bit?

I'm with you. Two-years ago we were looking at the occasional indie release and hoping the next Humble Bundle would include Linux ports. Today we have over 1000 high-quality games literally at our finger tips, and deleting your Windows partition and gaming exclusively Linux is (finally!) a viable option.

Is it where we would like it to be? Of course not. The ideal is parity with Windows, but that's still rather far in the future. Is it a significant step in the right direction? Certainly! And we should be celebrating this unprecedented success of our favorite platform.

And before people sneer at indie releases, remember that today's indie developers will be tomorrow's mainstream developers, so we want them to continue being successful on Linux.

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Quoting: throgh

Quoting: Mountain ManIt's silly to deny that Valve and Steam for Linux have had a huge impact on Linux gaming. If not for Valve's efforts, we'd almost certainly be where we were two or three years ago with the occasional indie release or Humble Bundle. There's no way at all we'd be getting the kind of AAA games we're getting now.

What is so silly about the fact that the customer rights on accessing some games through Steam are not very good handled? In fact there are no really rights and reading some excerpts from their eula is comparable reading a leasing contract. I just don't want to lease software, I want to buy the license of a lifetime and use it whenever, wherever and however I want.

Have you ready any EULA before? They're actually not much different now than they were 10-years ago. The only real difference is that here in the digital age, developers and publishers actually have a means of enforcing the EULA.

Quoting: throghAnd again a personal note: I don't want and need some big games. I just want to have fun and this is going up very good also with most Indie-titles. If I have to pay the price and only lease my games getting therefore them marked with this new modern attribute AAA the publisher can keep all of them! That is my way of the mentioned shopping list. Not DRM-free? Keep it!

The phrase "Cutting off your nose to spite your face" comes to mind.

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