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Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

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Quoting: Renzatic Gear

Quoting: Mountain ManOne of Joe Biden's many whoppers has already been flagged with an "additional context" notice. That would have never happened under the previous leadership.

I'm pretty sure our news sources fact checking our presidents has been a thing since at least the late 18th century.

First, Twitter isn't a news organization. And second, this is, to my knowledge, the first time Twitter has "fact checked" Joe Biden despite his many, many questionable statements.

I agree that Biden makes many questionable statements. Biden usually lies the way politicians always used to lie in the old days--by omission, by half-truth, by implication. And there isn't that much a fact-checker can say about that kind of thing.

There is a contrast here with Trump, who just lies constantly by simply saying the flat out opposite of reality--simple downright factual lies. Indeed, often things that are the opposite of other things he also said. Many Republican figures seem to have decided to emulate him. It's a very different style (and volume) of falsehood. But it's also something fact-checkers can readily check: These people are claiming things are facts which are totally not facts.

(Biden does sometimes outright lie, but it's usually something the media has already popularized, the kind of lie you can't question without being unpatriotic, like "The United States has the best (X) on earth" or "US intentions in 'international leadership' are benevolent" or such like)

Yeah, I don't really buy your rationalization that old Joe is somehow a more virtuous liar than Trump. :grin:

Clearly, you're capable of buying or not buying whatever you want.

But it's also pretty clear that for sheer volume and ready verifiability of lies, Trump is way ahead of any politician in American history, if only due to social media making it easy to say far more stuff to the public. There's an odd genius in it--Trump realized that in the age of Twitter, he no longer needs to even pretend to tell the truth--that rather than say what he thinks people want to hear within the constraints of some degree of realism, he can just say absolutely whatever he thinks people want to hear, no matter how completely and obviously false and even ridiculous, and even if it both can be and is quickly fact-checked and rebutted, even if anyone who just thinks for ten seconds would know half of it can't be true, none of that matters as long as people want it to be true and some substantial online community will repeat it, creating a resource that those who want to be fooled can go to for their "truth". This lets him pander to people far more completely, spinning whatever fantasy they need, even multiple contradictory fantasies, so there's a big upside.

Given the many channels available to him to pump these fantasies up, the downside prospect of conventional media checking his facts and calling him a liar becomes less important . . . and less important still since American conventional media first created a fairly explicitly Republican wing (notably talk radio, then Fox news) which led to a polarization where nearly all American media is now either Republican or Democrat, neither willing to fact check their own side. Truth was much more important in the Walter Cronkite era, when either party could expect to be excoriated if they got too obviously far from reality in their claims.

Biden, and the Democrats in general, are not so much more honest as more traditionalist.

Right, Joe is a "traditional" liar, so that makes it okay. 🤣

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: Mountain Man

Quoting: Renzatic Gear

Quoting: Mountain ManOne of Joe Biden's many whoppers has already been flagged with an "additional context" notice. That would have never happened under the previous leadership.

I'm pretty sure our news sources fact checking our presidents has been a thing since at least the late 18th century.

First, Twitter isn't a news organization. And second, this is, to my knowledge, the first time Twitter has "fact checked" Joe Biden despite his many, many questionable statements.

I agree that Biden makes many questionable statements. Biden usually lies the way politicians always used to lie in the old days--by omission, by half-truth, by implication. And there isn't that much a fact-checker can say about that kind of thing.

There is a contrast here with Trump, who just lies constantly by simply saying the flat out opposite of reality--simple downright factual lies. Indeed, often things that are the opposite of other things he also said. Many Republican figures seem to have decided to emulate him. It's a very different style (and volume) of falsehood. But it's also something fact-checkers can readily check: These people are claiming things are facts which are totally not facts.

(Biden does sometimes outright lie, but it's usually something the media has already popularized, the kind of lie you can't question without being unpatriotic, like "The United States has the best (X) on earth" or "US intentions in 'international leadership' are benevolent" or such like)

Yeah, I don't really buy your rationalization that old Joe is somehow a more virtuous liar than Trump. :grin:

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Quoting: Mountain ManOne of Joe Biden's many whoppers has already been flagged with an "additional context" notice. That would have never happened under the previous leadership.

I'm pretty sure our news sources fact checking our presidents has been a thing since at least the late 18th century.

First, Twitter isn't a news organization. And second, this is, to my knowledge, the first time Twitter has "fact checked" Joe Biden despite his many, many questionable statements.

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Quoting: GuestLet's be honest, this just means they won't ban as many nazis and dogwhistles will be probably OK there now. On an additional note, the reactionaries are such big fucking snowflakes: even as a non-american it's pretty clear that their propaganda flows freely from all mainstream sources. Censorship, of course... Crybabies...

The only difference, I think, will be that the Nazis and dog whistlers won't have a monopoly like they've enjoyed on Twitter for the past several years.:wink:

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One of Joe Biden's many whoppers has already been flagged with an "additional context" notice. That would have never happened under the previous leadership.
Musk also has access to a trove of internal communications proving that the top executives artificially inflated the number of actual users in order to drive up the price for ads. One of the messages said, "We're doing everything Musk has accused us of doing."

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Quoting: MilesAn effect lighting at the back, sure.. but having it in the front of even front-bottom looks like it would be an annoyance or eyestrain.

I agree. I'm not a fan of bright LEDs shining at me. My desktop case has an ultra bright blue LED as a power indicator that's really annoying. Especially when it blinks if the computer is in standby mode.

https://www.lightdims.com/index.php [External Link]

Been using those for years to cut down on the brightness of LEDs on electronics products.

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Where was it being manufactured? If it was in China, that's pretty much a guarantee that your intellectual property will be stolen. I knew a fellow from another forum who made custom flashlights and was in the prototype stage with a Chinese manufacturer where an employee picked up the plans off a table, literally walked across the street to a competitor, and sold them. A few weeks later, the fellow watched helplessly as the market was suddenly flooded with cheap Chinese clones of his flashlight.

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Multiple displays seem to be a problem for Linux in general. I've been wanting to add a second monitor to my setup for a while, but it would require a lot of hand editing of configuration files, and even that doesn't provide a guaranteed "it just works" solution.

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My stance is the same as it has always been: I'm not going to beg developers for Linux support. We're long past that at this point. If I'm interested in a game, and it's playable in Linux, then I'll buy it. If it's not playable in Linux, then I'm not interested, and the developer won't get my money. It's as simple as that.

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Quoting: TcheyThese guys are still alive and not too old, it amazes me, because i try to imagine what would be "computers" in 5-7 more human generations (if we don’t destroy ourselves first), compared to what they were at first, and i can only fail !

When I was born, a computer was something that was the size of a school gymnasium and was programmed with punch cards. 50 years later, a computer is something you can hold in your hand and can be operated with an interactive visual interface. Who knows what it will be 50 years from now!

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