Quoting: Guest

Quoting: EikeAs said many times, they are. They don't run Windows binaries, they are fully compiled for Linux. And wrapping source with source is actually a design pattern [External Link] tought to software engineers.

...and it makes NO DIFFERENCE speed wise as to whether you execute x86 asm that MSVC compiled, or x86 asm that GCC/clang compiled. I have no idea why people cannot understand this.

The performance isn't the problem.

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Quoting: Leopard

Quoting: ScooptaVP doesn't port...they just wrap. I won't be buying this.

Yes , but they gave us Bioshock Infinite and Witcher 2 which they are very high profiled games.

I didn't like the Witcher 2 and while Bioshock was good I can live without it.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: ScooptaVP doesn't port...they just wrap. I won't be buying this.

This type of stance is really silly. Do you buy Feral games? They're not exactly that different, they have their own special layer as well. As do likely many ports.

VP's ports like other ports are supported, mostly work well, they run like other games and so on.

Facts are, Linux is not currently profitable enough for anyone to consider entirely rewriting a rendering engine to support OpenGL/Vulkan.

...yeah...I know all Linux ports have a certain amount of wrapping. Except...VP shipped Windows binarys for saints row. That is taking it too far IMO.

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VP doesn't port...they just wrap. I won't be buying this.

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This is my biggest problem with all the premade easy engine's like Unity and Unreal. How can you be so ill informed about graphics APIs and develop a game?

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Can I go on a small rant? Why is it that some devs manage to list DirectX as a requirement in their Linux specs. I've seen games that say DirectX 9 compatible graphics card or DirectX compatible sound card(this game) and it just rubs me the wrong way. It either means they didn't care enough and just copied their windows specs for that part or they don't understand Linux because the engine they're using just has a Linux export button. I would give the benefit of the doubt and say they're just making it easy since DirectX is the most popular API for game dev it's something newer Linux users might more readily know off the top of their head but even then I still say it isn't helpful because it has nothing to do with the Linux driver situation for your device. I know of DX compatibile sound cards that didn't even work on Linux a while back. Anyway mini rant over.

EDIT: this game also lists shader model 5 for GPU requirements. More meaningless DX specs -__-.

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Quoting: vlademir1

Quoting: ScooptaExcept they don't demonstrate demand...all stats collected will show wine users as Windows users. The only way they know we're on wine is if we tell them at which point just tell them we want a Linux version.

Sorry for the confusion there. That "...when they at least provide a way for us on Linux to demonstrate demand" is kind of badly worded on my part and is intended specifically to be about the use of Wine wrapper APIs in porting, not the full wine system install use case.

Oh ok. I don't really approve of wrappers but I understand your point. I guess that's on way of looking at it.

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Quoting: liju

Quoting: fractalIf MS paid $2.5B to buy basically a one trick pony company (I admit, a very profitable pony) in 2015, I can't imagine how much would they have to pay GAYBEN for Valve IP and their store when Valve had a net worth of $3.0B in 2012 and he alone went from $1.5B net worth in 2012 to $5.5B in 2018 according to Forbes.

In general it would have been a bad deal to tie your extremely profitable corporation to another corporation known for their reverse Midas touch regarding anything other than their flagship product and making less money off entire games on their equivalent of Steam than you make off digital hats.[/rant]

I hope one day we can see the option for Valve to buy M$. How cool that would be (would it be?)? If the pace of earning compared to spending is faster for Valve than M$ then at some point in time it could happen ( : Its difficult to even imagine the consequences.

Anyway - I also do not believe this gossip. If it comes from M$ itself, means they are really doing worse and worse in all terms.

XDXD. If Lord gaben could acquire the cash to buy MS that would certainly be interesting indeed.

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Quoting: GuestOh, can't wait! Would be so cool if that would be some of Bethesda games. DOOM (2016) or Quake Champions :) But I think that will not happen, since Bethesda policy is not so friendly to non Windows gamers... ID Software was such a cool company before they got acquired...

Yeah although if you look at John Carmack's opinion on Linux gaming it's not what I would like it too be but it doesn't really matter since they got bought out and he left.

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Quoting: evergreenThe future of pc-gaming is not decided from MS, FB, Intel, AMD, Steam... It's all in NVIDIA's hands: they have GRID, best graphic cards, best cloud gaming technology. If they decide to produce CUDA-PC/Laptops, to use Vulkan libraries and mount all on a linux distro, the others are DEAD in 1 year! Fuchsia... lol!!!

...you sound like a real freedom loving person XD.

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