I was hoping that they'd also make a Reddit post as I don't have a Twitter account. If someone feels like suggesting Dark Souls or Skyrim I'd appreciate it.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: ScooptaI'm personally a bit disappointed that wine won. I believe wine is terrible for Linux gaming as a whole and I don't believe it should be used but oh well.

First, I think the project is an amazing feat.

For Linux gaming, I'm not 100% sure. I guess it makes Linux users buy Windows games, which is a bad thing. On the other hand, I've seen people on the forums switching to Linux who asked how they could run the games they own and love, and WINE is the answer to this question.

I don't use WINE for gaming, though.

Yeah the project is an amazing feat although the buying Windows games to play on Linux is the big problem I have with it.

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I'm personally a bit disappointed that wine won. I believe wine is terrible for Linux gaming as a whole and I don't believe it should be used but oh well.

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Quoting: g000hOne little detail I feel like bringing up about Linux gamers: WINE compatibility layer.

It seems to me that plenty of Linux people who play games are not sticking to Linux to do it.

Some boot up consoles to play console-specific games (e.g. Horizon Zero Dawn on Sony PS4)
Some boot up to Windows to play Windows-specific games (e.g. Player Unknown Battlegrounds)
Some play Windows games via WINE on Linux (e.g. Witcher 3 or Skyrim)

My problem with the above is that it isn't helping Linux gain traction. All those Linux users, who play the above non-Linux games are bringing the Linux percentage down. It's not so big a deal if the game isn't sending usage analytics back to the game publisher or back to Steam, but when it is, then it is making Linux userbase smaller than it actually occupies. (i.e. If that Linux user was playing a Linux game instead of a Windows / WINE / console game.)

My feeling is that Linux user percentage worldwide could be as high as 3 to 4 percent. And, that userbase would play more games on Linux, if those games were available on Linux.

Tbh. That right there is one of the reasons I don't use wine/dual boot. As far as developers know we're just on Windows.

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Quoting: elmapul". Unfortunately, when our content is illegally circumvented and potentially made available for free, in a format we do not think delivers the experience and quality we intend, it undermines our ability to do so by diverting potential support from new audiences."
they are absolutely right.

emulators arent perfect, if you think the old zsnes emulator is perfect, youre playig wrong.
you need at least 3ghz to properly emulate an Snes:
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/08/accuracy-takes-power-one-mans-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/ [External Link]

the video they sho is hard to notice, here is an comparission to make it more clear, the difference between emulators:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNLo-mn8Pw [External Link]
can you tell what is the correct speed to run this game? without the real hardware to know how the game should run?

now just imagine how hard it is to run an ps3.

many computer gamers think they are smarth while the truth is they're computer illiterates.
they complain at the lack of 4K but dont mind putting an gigant gap between each monitor on a multi moitor setup, break the aspect ratio etc.

emulators arent perfect, they take years to become perfect and in the mean time a lot of people are "guinea pigs", spoil the game experience with a lot of bugs.
its hard to tell if an game is bad because its not funny or because you had an bad experience with tons of glitches that shouldnt be there.
even worse, when they game has real glitches and the player cant tell if its the emulator fault or game fault.
or when glitches are part of an culture, like missingNO and all the legends arround him.

when ninteno tried to relaunch nes/snes games, i saw a lot of people complaining that "you can play this games for free" on pc, ignoring that they arent really free and the emulators arent accurate at all.
i saw emulators distorting the pitch of the musics, that simply didnt worth using then.

Atlus may be wrong trying to sue while the copyright law dont allow then to, but their argument was right.
they cant make an profit proting the game for pc, if everyone on pc had played the game already.
they cant afford an propper port.
they cant justify the sale.
and many people who had an bad experience with the game will lose the interest.

SNES emulation is actually pretty much perfect. SNES emulation is incredibly accurate. Anything newer though and that accuracy more or less falls apart.

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Quoting: qptain Nemo

Quoting: ScooptaWhile you're not wrong you're not right either. Under normal circumstances reverse engineering and emulation is legal. The problem is that under the DMCA circumventing DRM for any reason is illegal even if it's for a normally legal reason such as reverse engineering and emulation.

Wouldn't that only apply to people who actually use the emulator and the game together or try to distribute them together though? The emulator alone doesn't circumvent the DRM of Persona 5 if there is any, the developers of the emulator don't distribute Persona 5 with or without the emulator. There is no connection between the two products aside from potential interoperability. Unless potential interoperability between two programs becomes grounds for IP infringement, there is no case to make. If I screengrab Atlus's assets and start making illegal derivative works in Krita, it doesn't mean they can go after Krita developers now.

Yeah that's true but I think the devs were going for a "you're promoting an illegal activity" kind of stance. The problem is by telling people to dump their own games the RPCS3 devs are promoting DRM circumvention which is illegal(in the US).

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Quoting: ShmerlHow is it even applicable with DMCA? Emulation and reverse engineering is legal. No one should be nice to bullies who abuse the law and issue illegal takedowns.

While you're not wrong you're not right either. Under normal circumstances reverse engineering and emulation is legal. The problem is that under the DMCA circumventing DRM for any reason is illegal even if it's for a normally legal reason such as reverse engineering and emulation.

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I freaking hope it's rise of the tomb raider. I really want to play that game. I don't care too much about F1 2017

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Quoting: g000hWell, I'm still confused on this. The West Norwood icons (Mac and Linux) are still missing on the Feral Radar when I just visited it. Obviously it can be the "notoriously unreliable" nature of the Radar which is at fault (still).

EDIT: If I haven't said 'still' enough yet, here's another one: still !

Yeah given that this has been brought to their attention a couple times from poking around on here and r/linux_gaming I'm surprised that nothing has actually changed but I'd assume that if they canceled it they'd say something.

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To be honest other than the water pretty much none of this is new. The rainbow/black stretchy weirdness that happens has happened since I bought the game and I bought it when it first came out on launch day or shortly after. It's never really performed well either. I just honestly expect it from ark at this point.

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