And, just as I put bazzite on my steam deck (which is now working! :grin:)

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This looks interesting! :shock:

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Quoting: mitridas

Quoting: BlackBloodRumI put a request in. :dizzy:

If you mean a support request/feedback, I can't see anything - where did you send it?
Cool to have a Gentoo tester!

That's my bad, I could have worded that better!

In this instance, I meant I put a request in to join the beta. There was a request to join beta button, thus my phrasing also. It accepted me shortly after. :grin:

In terms of feedback, I gave the native build a brief spin, it booted and gave me a chuckle with the attention grab (I won't write what exactly, as to avoid spoilers) and then shut it down.

I'll have more time later to test further! :grin:

Edit: Also gave it a quick spin on the Steam Deck (OG version, not OLED), doesn't launch there. My guess is it's most likely the previous libc bug mentioned by others.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: CatKillerPlatform icons are broken again, like they were in the last sale. All the titles in the list just have Windows icons even if the game's available for other platforms.

I have the opposite, if it has a Linux version it only shows the SteamOS icon lol.

Meanwhile, my icons are working as normal. :dizzy:

Edit: Also make that 30 new games... someone uncool has been sending me links to games and like "you should get this too!" :angry:

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24 games later.... yeah I kind of noticed. :whistle:

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I put a request in. :dizzy:

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Quoting: razing32I hope I don't get a ban for this but
Just last night i pirated a game i own.
I have Far Cry 3 on steam but refused to be bothered with the stupid Ubi launcher and logging in to an account i have not touched in years.
So I pirated a game i literally own because it's easier.
I had to resort to a same thing with Settlers 7. I own the game on steam , legally but have to pirate it because it's more convenient.

If I haven't been banned yet, safe to say, you're fairly safe. :happy:

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Quoting: pleasereadthemanualYou won't see me advocating for DRM, but Anti-Cheat isn't DRM. It does accomplish the same feat DRM is most effective at: preventing customers from using products.

But this game does include third-party DRM already according to the Steam page:

You know what I don't like about you? You raise valid points that I can't logically dispute. :tongue: You are correct, it's not technically DRM, but it is being used in much the same way a DRM would be to restrict peoples usage.

Quoting: pleasereadthemanual

Incorporates 3rd-party DRM: EA on-line activation and Origin client software installation and background use required.

Does it even work now? There's a single-player mode. I imagine that would still be playable even with the anticheat..?

I don't know what I'm supposed to tell people. Buy your games on GOG and itch DRM-free, then use a Wine launcher? That rather defeats the ease-of-use of Proton. Steam automatically updates games, so even if it works now, there's no guarantee it'll work in the future unless you smuggle the game files out if it happens to not include Steam DRM (which it does not in this case). There's just no easy way to guarantee that what CAPCOM and EA are doing by bolting on DRM after the fact won't render your game unplayable in the future aside from...well, just not buying from Steam.

Hell, even having a Native Linux version at one time is not enough guarantee! Rocket League had one until a few years ago, and now Psyonix is talking about integrating Easy Anti-Cheat, which may or may not work in Proton.

Well, this is the core of the problem. A lot of these anti-cheats are not limited to the online aspects (as one might hope) but rather apply to the title as a whole, so it's highly likely that this anti-cheat will stop the game working lock, stock, and barrel.

Your first suggestion is a valid option, but I agree it's not optimal. But perspective is quite key to this issue, Steams DRM is relatively minimal, in comparison to the likes of Denovo and such, which is a good thing. This means assuming you have a game which has been, or is going to be updated to include further DRM (or anti-cheat) and you're not worried about the online capacities you have four relatively simple options:

1) If you haven't yet updated the game:
- Copy the games data files to another directory. (e.g the files with the bin file). When Steam comes along and updates it, just copy back over the old files. Steam won't touch them again unless there's another game update or your verify game files. So keep that other backup safe.

2) If you've already updated the game or purchased it after:
- You can use the Steam console to download a specific depot version which will allow you to downgrade to the previous version, assuming the depot still exists. Copy it as above, just in-case.

3) If the above can't work for whatever reason and you have a GOG version, install the GOG version into a prefix, then copy the GOG's files into the Steam game directories files replacing them entirely.

4) Set sail.

Of course, all of these are less than ideal but, better than nowt.

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So players on Steam Deck / Linux will be left with a broken game. Concerning for many reasons, because once again it shows developers can and will just break their games on certain platforms - even when put through Steam Deck Verified by Valve, it's not a guarantee that the games will continue working unless the developers support the platforms directly.

Indeed. But this is why so many of us for years have opposed DRM and tried to call attention to such tactics. But alas, most people don't listen, "it won't affect me.".

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Already got FO1 and 2...... They are great games! :grin: #2 is the better of the two though....... Well worth picking up!

As for the newer Flatout's after that? ...... just don't....

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