Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: DuckeenieWhy would you assume a reply to someone else would be about you?

Because I was in a hurry and skimmed it. I did edit the post after I saw my mistake. Sorry for the noise.

Not a problem. Have a great day.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: DuckeenieHope you will consider publishing your findings. :)

If you're talking about mine, I'm sorry to say I didn't bother saving the results after my informal tests. They were done on impulse and I didn't think there was anything useful to report. Basically everything I tested performed within a percentage point or two of each other in the few real-world tests I did, and my Xfce installation was running a tweaked Compton as the compositor so not exactly OOTB. There might have been slightly bigger variation on my work desktop with the Intel Haswell iGPU than my i7 / Nvidia gaming box, but I'd never game on the work machine anyway. I only did it on both systems because it was easy (had a spare SSD with all the desktops installed and configured) and I was curious.

Why would you assume a reply to someone else would be about you?

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: Duckeenie

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Quoting: DuckeenieI loved XFCE until I found out it was the slowest desktop for gaming even with compositing off.

Source [External Link]

That benchmark is far from scientific though. Seems like every single test gets conflicting results.

Don't know why you say conflicting results, XFCE comes last in every single test. Scientific or not without counter-evidence it stands. :P

Phronix did similar tests too. [External Link]

The Phoronix test uses Ubuntu's default settings with the compositors enabled.

Which is why I used the other link in the first instance... The point is two independent tests show that XFCE is slower when gaming.

And a quick googling will produce tests where it isn't. In my own tests on my systems against Mate and a couple of others left Xfce somewhere in the middle with insignificantly small differences overall (on my hardware at least), so I saw no reason to ditch the DE I'm most comfortable with.

It's likely that the performance disparity is not nearly as apparent on stronger hardware. Phoronix seems to have used Intel integrated graphics while the other test used Radeon R7 integrated. I will probably try out some other DE on my laptop and see if it makes a difference. Probably won't care enough to replace Xfce on my desktop though.

The motivation behind my original comment wasn't to discredit XFCE as some people will likely believe due to my overly brief initial comment. It's my favourite DE too. I just thought it would be interesting fodder for a gaming community to point out that contrary to what one might think due to XFCE's lightweight nature it doesn't appear to be the fastest DE for gaming.

Hope you will consider publishing your findings. :)

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: Duckeenie

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: DuckeenieI loved XFCE until I found out it was the slowest desktop for gaming even with compositing off.

Source [External Link]

That benchmark is far from scientific though. Seems like every single test gets conflicting results.

Don't know why you say conflicting results, XFCE comes last in every single test. Scientific or not without counter-evidence it stands. :P

Phronix did similar tests too. [External Link]

The Phoronix test uses Ubuntu's default settings with the compositors enabled.

Which is why I used the other link in the first instance... The point is two independent tests show that XFCE is slower when gaming.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: DuckeenieI loved XFCE until I found out it was the slowest desktop for gaming even with compositing off.

Source [External Link]

That benchmark is far from scientific though. Seems like every single test gets conflicting results.

Don't know why you say conflicting results, XFCE comes last in every single test. Scientific or not without counter-evidence it stands. :P

Phronix did similar tests too. [External Link]

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Quoting: aFoxNamedMorris

Quoting: lelouchWho cares!? Ubuntu was sadly once popular, but was never good (like SuSE). Fedora (Red Hat) is from some importance, leading a big part of linux development.

But folks these endless upgrade cyles and delays for new kernels, drivers, software - you want new graphics drivers faster w/o adding 3rd party PPAs, but still stable: Since a few years now there are Linux Distros with rolling releases - perfect for gaming and time saving

Because plenty of people still use Ubuntu and it's derivatives, myself included.

According to GOL users (x)buntu is also the most used https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics

I loved XFCE until I found out it was the slowest desktop for gaming even with compositing off.

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Quoting: FredOIf i'm not completely mistaken, the Steam client uses Chrome as its browser backend. Chrome dropped support for 32bit in about version 46-48(?), so maybe Valve doesn't have much choice in the matter if they keep using Chrome.
On the other hand I might just be talking a whole lot of nosh, in which case just grab another coffee and be happy :-)

Last I read they used a custom build of Chromium which is open source anyway.

Coffee you just reminded me, I have the filter pot on!

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Quoting: adolson

Quoting: DuckeenieI follow loads of gaming/tech/Linux sites and haven't seen it publicised anywhere prior to this. Nice that the sale they had and told nobody about is gaining them so much publicity NOW!

Uh, it was advertised directly on the front page of Steam, AND in the Steam client itself.

Nice cave man impression there at the start.

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I follow loads of gaming/tech/Linux sites and haven't seen it publicised anywhere prior to this. Nice that the sale they had and told nobody about is gaining them so much publicity NOW!

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Quoting: adolson

Quoting: BillNyeTheBlackGuyI would tell people to get an Alpha instead of a steam machine.

Windows as a gaming console OS is crap. And last I checked, the Alpha ships with the 360 gamepad, not a Steam Controller, which is going to cut down the number of playable games by a ton. Keyboard and mouse in the living room sucks, unless maybe you own one of those virginity-protecting keyboard and mouse tray things.

Windows is not for me but I hate to see completely unqualified and unsubstantiated statements like: Windows as a gaming OS is crap, when any impartial person would tell you Windows is streets ahead in this regard. I mean: They have the games; the drivers the user-base and and the 3D performance. Which part of the gaming experience is Linux winning?

As for Steam boxes...Every use I can think of for these leaves me thinking: well yeah, but, why bother?

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