Quoting: doctorx

Quoting: kokoko3kHow ironic,
Pipewire (apparently broken in Arch, which uses default upstream configs) has been created by Wim Taymans, Principal Engineer at Red Hat which in turns sponsors Fedora :)

Even more reason to avoid pipewire

Pipewire may not be ready yet, but I totally approve his approach to stop the fragmentation in the linux audio ecosystem by embracing the existing technologies instead of trying to just replace them.

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QuoteThere comes a time when everyone has to sit and think about what they use on their PC

Totally agree, that was the reason i switched from gentoo to arch.
But that was more than a decade ago.
Since then, when Arch gave me problems, it was either my fault or upstream fault.
Arch is too much a wonderful distro for me, from the aur to Arch rollback machine, you can have the system you want, upgrade, freeze the state and still be able to install new packages or even roll back to the previous -Syu with little to no effort at all.
Since it gave me so little problems, if i ever wanted to switch to an easier distro for lack of time, I think i'd try mint.

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How ironic,
Pipewire (apparently broken in Arch, which uses default upstream configs) has been created by Wim Taymans, Principal Engineer at Red Hat which in turns sponsors Fedora :)

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Keep up the fun!

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Quoting: Kiwii

Quoting: kokoko3kMaybe via usb cable to avoid network troubles too.

Then you get mtp troubles instead...

mtp shortcomings do not depend on the transmission medium, but on the (poorly documented) protocol.

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While my understanding of the meaning of "simple" cannot include the need to perform many steps to accomplish one thing, I can understand that it can still be easier for some to perform what I personally call complexity, instead.
Sure thing is that anybody would agree that Valve should really provide a multiplatform solution which is simple and easy to perform such task out of the box.
Maybe via usb cable to avoid network troubles too.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: kokoko3k

Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: kokoko3kAlso, and absolutely not rhetoric, but really, REALLY out of curiosity:
Why someone on earth could have an interest in opening the whole steam to start obs!?

Presumably the people likely to do this would be people who are opening Steam anyway to play games?

If it were true, then i'd expect fro those people to add every program they use as a non steam application to their steam library.

So you mean, like, they'd add things they do while not playing games to their game-library software because that's exactly the same as adding things they do while playing games to their game-library software?

Ah, understood.
So the use case is that since obs may be used even while they are playing steam games, then it makes sense to take the burden to package and release it as a steam application, because people will prefer to start it from their library.
This honestly I haven't thought to.
Well then, but this still does not help my progress in understanding the motivations, because i don't think they are installing a browser as a steam specific app or any other app one may think of one can use while they are playing.
Ofc I may be wrong, but I really don't believe the number of users starting obs from steam justifies the release in their store.
Probably is just a matter of having more visibility or I just don't know.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: kokoko3kAlso, and absolutely not rhetoric, but really, REALLY out of curiosity:
Why someone on earth could have an interest in opening the whole steam to start obs!?

Presumably the people likely to do this would be people who are opening Steam anyway to play games?

If it were true, then i'd expect fro those people to add every program they use as a non steam application to their steam library.
And while using steam like a start menu may even be a viable solution, I really don't expect them to do so, that's the problem.

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Quoting: Liam DaweI shouldn't need to explain the same thing over and over and over again to give in to pedantic attitudes over packaging.

...Crystal clear.

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Quoting: Liam DaweI list the Flatpak as it's the only official cross-distro solution used by the developer. Simple as that. I shall continue to link to Flathub / Flatpak whenever it's available because it works across any distribution AND Steam Deck too. You can argue about preferred packaging all you want, stick to whatever you like, this is the easiest for users so we don't have to list a million ways of installing things across many different distributions.

I am not objecting the listing of flatpak per se, but the assertion that every linux user should stick with it without motivation provided right in the article.

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