Quoting: chrNice. I'm still dreaming about using different desktop backgrounds for each virtual desktop (which I was reminded of when hearing about this virtual desktop update).

Can do that easily in Xfce. It's what I do to remember which workspace I am on, as there is no way to display numbers on screen, like there is in KDE and Cinnamon. Can only show numbers if you have workspace displaying on your panel and rename them from there in Xfce. I will have to try out KDE in VMware and see how Wayland behaves itself now, as all I keep hearing is how good Wayland is, but do people actually use their computers, other than playing games and watching YouTube? Do they make spreadsheets, create stuff, open as many tabs as possible, push their systems to the limit, by having Steam games open whilst rendering or editing video, watching YouTube, browsing the web all at the same time, whilst using Wayland?

I'm just curious that's all, as that is how I spend my time in Xfce. If I feel happy enough with KDE Wayland in a virtual environment I will install it onto real hardware and see how it performs in the real world. I've been on the fence with Wayland, as heard nothing but good things, then the horror stories of it not liking OBS-Studio and other app installs.
Every time I tried Wayland session with either KDE or Gnome, they kept crashing. Though that was some time ago, so does anyone here use their Wayland Linux like I do in X11? Is Wayland really that good now that it does not crash when put under load?

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This is just terrible. This means more lighting artifacting, as it's bad enough with dark areas having lines or arc of color in the background when a scene gets lit up under low light, especially noticeable in YouTube videos after YouTube's compression and the horrible VP9 codec has been added. After five years of having my 32" curved 2560x1440 monitors I have managed to remove the light arc, by adjusting my monitor's hidden contrast settings, which acts a bit like Vignette, but not so aggressive. The shots of Grace from Requiem is just too far in my opinion. NVIDIA may as well go the whole hog and say bye, bye Computer graphics get real humans on screen, with real human zombies and tons of real blood and gore. Players will be so scared, they'll be throwing up everywhere. Not to mention even more power coming from the wall, plus game will either bottleneck or lose FPS with this added AI Mask over the top. So glad I'm running a 4060 Ti with 16GB of rammage and 32GB on board Ram. No way I'm upgrading to a 5080 or 5090, as in my opinion NVIDIA should be concentrating going back to 8pin power for their cards, not relying on this 12pin all the time, as so many people are still having their connectors melting. Yes I know it can happen with 8pin as well, but at least 8pin is more reliable.

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Quoting: Caldathras

Quoting: princecThe latest drivers from Nvidia completely ruined my XFCE experience unfortunately, entirely breaking the compositor, which had to be turned off. Attempting to drop back down to the (known working) 570 drivers left me in "broken computer hell", booting to a black screen, which took a couple of days to fix. Grr. I am loathe to try the new 580 drivers as it's probably still the case that XFCE is broken.

I will probably have to accept that Mint really wants me to use Cinnamon instead, which I suppose is no great hardship.

I am running Linux Mint 22 XFCE with the 580 series driver. I haven't experienced the problems you've described. I'm on an older GPU, however. I also run at a resolution of no more than 1920x1080 (usually 1440x810 in game). Perhaps that accounts for the difference.

Maybe try @clatterfordslim's suggestion? Might work with the 580 series driver as well.

Quoting: jkaart

Quoting: clatterfordslim

Quoting: princecThe latest drivers from Nvidia completely ruined my XFCE experience unfortunately, entirely breaking the compositor, which had to be turned off.

You have to turn the inbuilt v_blank off inside of xfwm to fix the screen flickering, after installing the newish 590.48.01 driver.
Here is the fix, unless you already know then ignore.
xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/vblank_mode -s off
Then reboot your system. Switch on Pipeline Composition in NVIDIA-Settings and you won't have any more problems.

Have you give any source for this fix?

Originally Leo the AI companion in Brave-Browser came up with it, but here is where he got it from.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=311088 [External Link]

Scroll down the page you'll see someone had posted the solution. It worked for me too and have no more screen flickering.

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Quoting: princecThe latest drivers from Nvidia completely ruined my XFCE experience unfortunately, entirely breaking the compositor, which had to be turned off.

You have to turn the inbuilt v_blank off inside of xfwm to fix the screen flickering, after installing the newish 590.48.01 driver.
Here is the fix, unless you already know then ignore.
xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/vblank_mode -s off
Then reboot your system. Switch on Pipeline Composition in NVIDIA-Settings and you won't have any more problems.

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Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: amataiShouldn't we call it WFCE then ?

No, because the X in Xfce doesn't stand for X11. Or anything else. It's just a name that looks a lot like an acronym, for historical reasons.

It was Xellent Friggin Cool Desktop Environment.
I did not want to swear, so changed it to Friggin instead.
And boy it still lives up to it's name.
Every time I switch my computer on, I know I'm in for a good time.

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Quoting: CaldathrasAnd I've been holding off on 580.126.09 because someone here mentioned problems with XFCE.

Yes it was me I think. Screen flickering in Xfce and Cinnamon. To fix screen flickering, make sure you setup composition pipeline in Nvidia Settings.
Next put this command into your terminal and reboot.
xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/vblank_mode -s off
What this command does is switch off vblank in Xfwm4.
That is why the screen and opened apps start flickering, vblank needs to be switched off. Once rebooted Flickering gone forever.

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I upgraded to this 580.126.09 driver in Linux Mint 22.2 Zara Xfce Edition and it does exactly the same as what the 590 drivers does in Cachy OS Xfce Edition. Terminal and anything else open, starts flickering on and off like a lightbulb. Everything has now been concentrated onto Wayland, including NVIDIA drivers in my opinion.

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Quoting: Carolly

Quoting: ExplosiveDiarrhea¨gaming optimized distros" are the dumbest thing ever, hobby projects that do not contribute anything upstream and do not teach their users anything.
But they are always fast and efficient when they have to setup their patreon...

Because nobody at all uses Proton-GE patches or Cachy kernel optimizations amirite?

I use ProtonUp and CachyOS proton version, have not figured out how to configure Cachy OS game-tuned Kernels to run on a Ubuntu based Distro. I used Cachy OS Xfce Edition, but NVIDIA drivers mucked it up, leaving me with opened Windows Terminal, Brave-Browser, Steam flickering on and off like a lightbulb. So thought screw it, go back to the drawing board and try Mint Xfce out for gaming on. Would love to get Cachy OS's tuned Kernels going though. Games would flow better.

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I've just setup Linux Mint Xfce Edition for gaming through Steam, with a low latency Kernel, plus uninstalled stuff I don't need, like Linux Mint themes and their icon themes, because I have my own dedicated theme for Xfce. I'm dual booting with Xubuntu 24.04 and am going to install Flatpaks on it, getting rid of Snapd altogether. All that Xubuntu will be for is playing my PlayStation 2 games, that I turned into ISO's for PCSX2 to read. You can game on any Linux Distro, just make sure your hardware is up to it. To play triple A games, like The Last of Us Part 1 and 2 which both had a really bad port to PC. You need hardware wise Processor with eight cores sixteen threads, 32GB of Rammage and a dedicated NVIDIA or AMD card with 16GB or more of VRAM. The Last of Us ports were really bad though and unfortunately they do not run very well in Proton, even at low settings because these ports were rushed in my opinion. Yet any other PlayStation ported game runs really well in Proton. I'm waiting for the day when there will only be one proton version to cover everything, no matter what hardware.

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Quoting: Cley_FayeAh, Log back into X11 and hope next month brings undocumented but welcome improvements :D

I have just upgraded to Cachy OS Xfce Edition, through out my system, so have two Cachy OS Xfce Editions running. One for gaming and the other for everyday tasks and video rendering through Davinci Resolve. Updated to this driver yesterday and now have to live without compositing, because Xfce Terminal keeps flashing and panels keep flashing the app icons that are on the panel. They concentrated more on Wayland this time round it seems. I'm not moving to Wayland until every environment has it and proves to run properly without any glitches. I hope NVIDIA get this fixed, as don't want to have to downgrade driver.

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