Definitely an amazing game. A few more like these and I'll have no reason to dual boot.

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Quoting: PZiggy

Fact. Valve never going to make a game exclusive for its platform. (steam machines)
Microsoft its making exclusive games for xbox one.

Valve is making games exclusive to their "platform", which is Steam, the same way Microsoft is making games exclusive to their Xbox/Windows store

Wrong: you can play the valve games in windows, mac and Linux, even in consoles, and they said that
they are not going to make any SteamOS exclusive. A Microsoft Win10 exclusive will be Windows 10 ONLY. Its all about diferent PC OS.

I think you misunderstood me. I think that for Valve, the OS doesn't matter at all, their platform is Steam, not SteamOS. They don't make any money from consumers using a specific OS, so they don't care, as long as the OS doesn't hinder them. That's why they started encouraging Linux when Microsoft started pushing their apps on Win 8. On the other hand, Microsoft sells Windows and the app store exclusives are just a way to push their OS, they already did something similar with Halo 2 and Windows Vista.

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Quoting: PZiggy

Quoting: s8as8a

Valve is making games exclusive to their "platform", which is Steam, the same way Microsoft is making games exclusive to their Xbox/Windows store

If you're referring to the Source 2 engine, to my knowledge, Valve is not saying that games made using that engine cannot be sold outside of Steam; Valve is simply saying that, the Source 2 engine games must be sold in either Steam alone or Steam in addition to any other store.

Oh no, I just mean that PC versions of Valve games (Half-Life, Counter-Strike, Left 4 Dead, Dota 2, Portal) are only playable on Steam, even if you buy a physical copy.

That's because all the games you have listed are all develoved by Valve. But the monopoly practices are to make exclusives to an store for games done by third companies. If Valve makes the game, Valve chooses in which stores must be sold.
In the case of Quantum Break, this game is made by a third company, but Ms has made a deal for that company to only sell the game in their store.
Valve will never say to a third company: "sell the game in steam, and not in another. I will pay you money to be steam exclusive". Valve will never say "this game is only playable in steam os",both things could in fact, be good moves if they want to set their own monopoly. But they won't do.

Quantum Break is published by Microsoft. If they start telling others to release their games only on the Windows store, then I think we'll have a major problem. For now it's only Microsoft games that are app store exclusive, not games from other publishers though, for example Rise of the Tomb Raider is available on both Steam and Windows store.

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Quoting: s8as8a

Valve is making games exclusive to their "platform", which is Steam, the same way Microsoft is making games exclusive to their Xbox/Windows store

If you're referring to the Source 2 engine, to my knowledge, Valve is not saying that games made using that engine cannot be sold outside of Steam; Valve is simply saying that, the Source 2 engine games must be sold in either Steam alone or Steam in addition to any other store.

Oh no, I just mean that PC versions of Valve games (Half-Life, Counter-Strike, Left 4 Dead, Dota 2, Portal) are only playable on Steam, even if you buy a physical copy.

Edit: Same goes for EA and Ubisoft. EA games require Origin and Ubisoft games require Uplay

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Quoting: tony1abLet's just judge them by the facts:

Fact. Steam allows game developers to put the game on steam, then sell on other stores.
Microsoft its making exclusive games for their store.

I've seen Xbox game keys sold in some online stores, and while I don't have an Xbox and don't know all the details, I'd guess that means that other retailers can sell Microsoft games

Fact. Valve never going to make a game exclusive for its platform. (steam machines)
Microsoft its making exclusive games for xbox one.

Valve is making games exclusive to their "platform", which is Steam, the same way Microsoft is making games exclusive to their Xbox/Windows store

Fact. Valve lets people vote which games are to be played in their system (greenlight). Microsoft have to approve your game.

Can't argue here, but judging by the amount of crappy mobile games on the Windows store, it's probably not hard to get your game onto the store.

Conclusion:
Microsoft are making movements who are proper of monopoly.

If you help a monopoly to consolidate, then you will be forced to obey their rules: Pay a fee to play online. Pay a fee monthly. Stay permanently connected to the internet to play even solo games. At the moment is consolidated, they will put rules and you only will be able to obey them.

Well, simply do not help monopolys.

A monopoly is probably every company's wet dream, be it Microsoft, Valve or any other. Some things, like always online games, already exist, and yes, it is because of some big companies, but not necessarily Microsoft.

What I'm trying to say is that while Microsoft seems like the greater evil here, that does not mean Valve and other companies are completely innocent and only want good for you. Every big company cares about profit and if a company is nice to the consumer, it's only because that may be profitable.

I apologize, if I'm defending Microsoft, but it just seems that people talk crap about Microsoft, just because they're Microsoft.

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