I'm happy that you failed to install Windows. It is really this kind of pragmatism that kills our market share in surveys. Make the Windows-only child games run with Wine, it is acceptable to use it in these kind no other possibility "emergency situations". I would have chosen SteamOS for a TV though.

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I also experienced VM faults in Cities:Skylines, which runs perfectly fine with the GPUPRO driver on my RX460. I hope this patch is backported to Mesa 13.x.

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Quoting: XicronicMesa 13.03? When did they switch from AMDGPU-PRO?

They did not. The update is mostly relevant for Intel GPU users, allthough if I am not mistaken, there are a few AMD cards that are powered through Mesa as well. VMWare virtual Steam Machines also benefit from the updated Mesa, because it unlocks higher OpenGL versions in the guest system.

Because of the relevance of Vulkan for Valve, I expect that they are not in a hurry to drop AMDGPU-PRO, at least not until the open-source Vulkan driver provides equivalent functionality.

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No Linux users should learn how to not dual boot. If you reboot to Windows that is the perfect argument for developers that a Linux port is unnecessary. You are then a Windows customer and are counted correctly as a Windows customer. That you have also Linux installed is business wise irrelevant if you buy Windows games.

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Valve their efforts until now have given us ~1% market share on Steam, that is about clear. But what is important to be is that Valve give clear indications they are not done yet. The Steam Dev days with all machines was a sign. But Valve hiring developers to work on AMD drivers? Why would you do that if you don't have business interrests for that?

To me, this is a clear sign that AMD is developing something for Valve. And hiring developers yourself to develop open source drivers might be cheaper than paying AMD to do the same. I don't see any other way how to interpret this.

It also makes sense that the hardware developers that worked on the Steam Link and Steam Controller are not folding paper airplanes at the moment. Does anyone know what they are working on at the moment?

What would AMD be developing for Valve? It should be graphics related. So it is a GPU or an APU. Zen CPU + Polaris GPU + HBM memory?

Steam bomber is coming!

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If a GPLV3 project includes GPLV2+ files, the project as a whole is GPLV3. You can however reuse the GPLV2+ files in other GPLV2 projects.

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So Valve is working both on the amdgpu kernel driver as well on userspace Mesa? Something tells me there is more going on than Valve just wanting to help AMD. Are they working on some piece of hardware?

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daniel@daniel:~> tclsh
% format %c%c%c%c 0b01000011 0b01101001 0b01110110 0b00110110

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This is Wine used in the right way. It should be used by developers/publishers, the use of Wine by end-users themselves is only an emergency solution if nothing else can prevent them from installing Windows.

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Quoting: TheRiddickTHey should also count users who are using OS type Wine or similar.

Wine users buy and play Windows games. So for game developers they are Windows customers and should be counted as such.

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