Quoting: Philadelphus

Quoting: orochikyoa reason that actually any Mac OS doesnt have a terminal since 10 years ago.

I'm pretty sure OS X does have a terminal (it's just not really advertised), given that professional astronomy (my field) uses about 50-50 Mac and Linux and pretty much everything in astronomy requires liberal use of the command line. :) That's what got me into using Linux after growing up with Windows only, actually.

Yeah there is still a commandline in MacOSX, and its usually one of the first programs when I have to use a Mac :-)

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I just got Brütal Legend [External Link] for 2.24€ and played the first 20 minutes, Really fun and would say even if I don't play further already worth it for that price:-)

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There is also a huge patch coming out at the same time for all that own the game, besides the new DLC

Heinlein 1.3 - Full Patch Notes [External Link]

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Quoting: vfjWhat about steam and wine?

That probably will count as a Windows sale if you buy through the windows steam client on wine.

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Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: RedfaceWhat is missing is a way for developers to add DRM free as feature so it is listed together with Single-Player, Multi-Player etc.

Isn't that as simple as not linking to the steam api library? That'll mean no steam goodies like achievements though, so I doubt there'd be much support for it.

I believe what a lot of the DRM free games on Steam are doing is to check if Steam is running, and if not to disable the features like cloud save and achievements if not.

I just made a quick check with Tropico5 without Steam running and had a bunch of missing libraries.
Then I tried it with the steam runtime but no steam running and could start it, and it did not find my cloud saves. I am not sure what else is missing but it did start without steam

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Quoting: m2mg2

Quoting: MaCroX95@m2mg2

I agree with you, DRM is not a problem, it's their game and they have the right to make it DRM, Windows are Microsoft's OS and they have the right to DRM it and control our computers and spy on us if we accept their EULA so it's on us to say NO to those kinds of practices... If people don't get away from them they will just keep getting worse, however legally they have the right to do it if you accept their EULA... So if I would want to use Windows I would be forced to accept their EULA and DRM and same is with games... you don't need to buy games but if you want to buy and play a game that belongs to the company you need to accept their EULA and DRM so I don't see a problem here... it's better to have DRM only on the game that you play rather than the OS that u use and also games that you play on :)

I don't like DRM. If a game asks me for root escalation so it can install some DRM service, instant refund request. Luckily I haven't seen this on Linux yet. I think Steam DRM is fairly benign as far as DRM goes. I would like games to be released on GOG also, that way you can get a copy that will work even if steam ever goes under you don't loose games. But I think it's a lot to expect of developers/publishers right now. I would really like to see steam add the option of developers including games in Steam DRM free, that way GOG wouldn't be needed. I don't think GOG really cares about Linux and they haven't really done much to advance Linux gaming. We don't even have their client available on our platform.

There are DRM free games on Steam, a user maintained list is here List of DRM-free games [External Link]
What is missing is a way for developers to add DRM free as feature so it is listed together with Single-Player, Multi-Player etc.

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Quoting: liamdaweI've added in a bit about Games Republic too, thanks for reminding me.

Games Republic - Their answer to me from last time:

We work directly with developers & online retailers like Nexway, which work directly with publishers too. We got that information on our About Us page: https://gamesrepublic.com/service/about-us.html [External Link]

We sell only legitimate and authorized keys received directly from the publishers

Edit: I wouldn't have ever expected less from Games Republic, since they are owned by 11bit (developer of This War of Mine, Anomaly).

That does not tell if and how they count Linux sales.

Lets say I just browse their sire without filtering for linux only and stumble upon

https://gamesrepublic.com/game/action,saints-row-iv---game-of-the-century-edition,10855.html [External Link]

knowing that it is out for Linux I might buy it even if it is not listed as Linux on that page.

If I filter for linux and search for Saints they only show https://gamesrepublic.com/game/action,saints-row-iv---game-of-the-century-edition,10855.html [External Link]

and then the previous example with borderlands 2 where the same game has 2 store pages depending on platform.

So does it matter what platform they list for the counting, or not?

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Thanks Liam, that is nice to have that info collected.
Do you happen to know more how gamesrepublic.com handles those?

When I asked them about their recent sale how they count they answered back that they do not report the platform used to buy the key, but that the developers will know when you activate a key on Linux

Then I noticed that games with a different Linux Publisher like Feral or Aspyr have different store pages for Linux and Windows, for example:

Windows with 2K Games as publisher: https://gamesrepublic.com/game/action,borderlands-the-pre-sequel,8008.html [External Link]

Mac/Linux with Aspyr as publisher: https://gamesrepublic.com/game/action,borderlands-the-pre-sequel-mac---linux,8015.html [External Link]

There are more examples like that where they have different store pages with different publishers. Games that are ported in house or by a contractor that doesn’t publish seem all to have one page for all platforms.

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Quoting: TacoDeBossWhat a load. I nearly pre-ordered the Deluxe Edition yesterday. I'm not sure I'm going to be spending any money on this at all anymore,

Never preorder. But if there is a good port and the game is good then buy it from legitimate sources or just dont play it

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Quoting: liamdaweI spoke to Feral, they said it should support them buying it here. So you shouldn't worry too much.

Thanks for the information. Is that specific to this sale where only SEGA is listed as a publisher or in general on humble for games already released for Linux?

I would love an updated article on GOL regarding buying Linux games on different shops, and when they get counted as Linux sales, and when the porter companies with their own publishing like Feral in this case get a cut of the sale.

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