Sad news for people planning to play this on a deck.

Hopefully other studios do enable proton support. Kinda looking forward to playing online shooters with friends while my family watch tv.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: GreenI see the problem that arrises when I'm not playing a game with a windows key shortly after purchasing it, but still feel its not my responsibility to repair faulty counting systems. The ones depending on it for their income or succes of their new OS should fix it. But thanks for the information, learned something new.

Trouble is, most parties involved seem to be happy with how it goes. Valve gets its money (and having some viable OS alternative at hands just in case seems to be enough for them), the resellers are getting their money, the original publishers and developers get their money, the gamers get their games for cheap. Say a game has been ported by Feral, they are the only interested party being unhappy with using key resellers - but they don't have the power to change anything about it. We, the Linux gamers, might be the only party who could try to make a (very small) difference.

I'm not saying people are bad if they don't. But I'd like people to at least think about it.

Fair enough, ill give it some thought.

Is there a forum/thread somewhere about alternative options for valve to consider? I'm curious what solution people would like to have in place. Probably going to be a hard one if people don't want to increase the window of opportunity to play the game and developers getting payed later.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: GreenNo we would not have been forgotten, they would notice there is something wrong with their metrics and adjust accordingly, but they don't need to, see my previous reply.

Unfortunately, the world cares more about money than about metrics. And, as shown, the money is already elsewhere when the metrics could be corrected in the world you imagine.

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: GreenNo we would not have been forgotten, they would notice there is something wrong with their metrics and adjust accordingly, but they don't need to, see my previous reply.

Unfortunately, the world cares more about money than about metrics. And, as shown, the money is already elsewhere when the metrics could be corrected in the world you imagine.

Very true.

I see the problem that arrises when I'm not playing a game with a windows key shortly after purchasing it, but still feel its not my responsibility to repair faulty counting systems. The ones depending on it for their income or succes of their new OS should fix it. But thanks for the information, learned something new.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: GreenThis don't buy windows keyes isshortsighted, for one spending more money on a game to get an honest count on our Platform is weird, the one who does the counting (or needs the counting for getting payed) should count differently... and they do.

Second, steam also looks after a few days at the player’s play time and reassigns their platform category based on that permanently. Any linux porter doing bussiness knows this and makes this part of their contracts to get payed accordingly.

When buying a key from a reseller, you cannot play shortly after the key has been sold by Steam, because this possible has been long time ago. The money has already been paid to someone else (the Windows publisher) and cannot be redirected anymore. You are losing the influence you could have. This has clearly been stated by e. g. Feral representatives. How comes you think you know more about the money they get then they do?

I did't say I know more then they do, that is you asumption.

Normally I would react politely to any argument you make and admit any mistakes I made... but really dislike people who are making passive agressive assumptions, gives me the feeling I'm talking to a 10 year old. Which you probably are not, just my feeling.

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Quoting: GreenAbout buying only a key "when you are absolutely sure it counts as linux". Its just useless to pay more for a game only to promote linux. The percentage of linux games that actually pay attention to this way of buying is way to low to be significant. Just buy the cheapest key you can get and let valve do their own counting, currently their counting system is broken, i'm not going to pay more for that.

If everyone was thinking like you we would be forgoten already... one of the reasons why developers still produce linux games is a lot of times it's not even worth to them but they know that we are humans too and we like to play games as well so they don't want to be discriminating, and as a thanks we can try and be good to them as they are good to us, otherwise we can go back in 2010 where there were almost literally no AAA games for linux.

No we would not have been forgotten, they would notice there is something wrong with their metrics and adjust accordingly, but they don't need to, see my previous reply.

And to be clear, I'm an very supportive linux user, promoting games with linux support, writting reviews, even getting free copies these days to test but won't prop myself here, working as a devecloper on our beloved kernel and always leave a few happy messages on the forums of games I play.

I just think differently about metrics.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: GreenAbout buying only a key "when you are absolutely sure it counts as linux". Its just useless to pay more for a game only to promote linux. The percentage of linux games that actually pay attention to this way of buying is way to low to be significant.

The smaller the amount of people, the more significant is your part.

Quoting: GreenJust buy the cheapest key you can get and let valve do their own counting, currently their counting system is broken, i'm not going to pay more for that.

If you don't care for it, ok. But other people do care - and you might benefit from their caring. You shouldn't try to persuade them not to, even if it might make you feel better.

I care, I just don't care about doing stuff without merrit.

This don't buy windows keyes isshortsighted, for one spending more money on a game to get an honest count on our Platform is weird, the one who does the counting (or needs the counting for getting payed) should count differently... and they do.

Second, steam also looks after a few days at the player’s play time and reassigns their platform category based on that permanently. Any linux porter doing bussiness knows this and makes this part of their contracts to get payed accordingly.

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About buying only a key "when you are absolutely sure it counts as linux". Its just useless to pay more for a game only to promote linux. The percentage of linux games that actually pay attention to this way of buying is way to low to be significant. Just buy the cheapest key you can get and let valve do their own counting, currently their counting system is broken, i'm not going to pay more for that.

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Don't forget to use enhanced steam to see where you can buy the game the cheapest currently. For example: mad max is currently only 6.79 on greenmangaming.

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