This game should be mandatory for everybody, especially considering the current direction of world politics.

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Quoting: g000hOne little detail I feel like bringing up about Linux gamers: WINE compatibility layer.

It seems to me that plenty of Linux people who play games are not sticking to Linux to do it.

Some boot up consoles to play console-specific games (e.g. Horizon Zero Dawn on Sony PS4)
Some boot up to Windows to play Windows-specific games (e.g. Player Unknown Battlegrounds)
Some play Windows games via WINE on Linux (e.g. Witcher 3 or Skyrim)

My problem with the above is that it isn't helping Linux gain traction. All those Linux users, who play the above non-Linux games are bringing the Linux percentage down. It's not so big a deal if the game isn't sending usage analytics back to the game publisher or back to Steam, but when it is, then it is making Linux userbase smaller than it actually occupies. (i.e. If that Linux user was playing a Linux game instead of a Windows / WINE / console game.)

My feeling is that Linux user percentage worldwide could be as high as 3 to 4 percent. And, that userbase would play more games on Linux, if those games were available on Linux.

This is also my "way of gaming", I got Linux only on my system and I don't use wine , so thumbs up!

Though I think it is perfectly fine if people are using different systems to to play their favorite games. I had a PS3 once too and are certainly still tempted when seeing a glimpse of Uncharted somewhere. That said I sincerely hope that people are enabling their brains when thinking about wine gaming. Wine is a direct competitor to Feral/Aspyr imho. If one cares about Linux as a platform then a port from Feral/Aspyr and friends should always be preferred above buying the game for windows and playing it via wine.

I hear a lot of voices that Skyrim or Doom should come to Linux. This would be pointless, the sales would marginal since a lot of potential Linux gamer already play these games using wine. I know of course that this would not happen if there would be a day one release. But that is simply mostly not feasible for the 1% market share. There are exceptions though like this title here!

Just to clarify, it was not my intention to say that wine is evil and one should not use wine. My apologies if my posting reads like this.

I don't use wine for games, just for two apps and I'm grateful for that. If wine works for your games, please use it and enjoy! What I wanted to say in my original posting, please think twice with games that have arrived as linux ports or have the potential to come directly to Linux land. E.g. there is a good chance that Rise of the Tomb Raider is coming to Linux, I guess it wouldn't be wise to buy that game for wine gaming right now.

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Quoting: g000hOne little detail I feel like bringing up about Linux gamers: WINE compatibility layer.

It seems to me that plenty of Linux people who play games are not sticking to Linux to do it.

Some boot up consoles to play console-specific games (e.g. Horizon Zero Dawn on Sony PS4)
Some boot up to Windows to play Windows-specific games (e.g. Player Unknown Battlegrounds)
Some play Windows games via WINE on Linux (e.g. Witcher 3 or Skyrim)

My problem with the above is that it isn't helping Linux gain traction. All those Linux users, who play the above non-Linux games are bringing the Linux percentage down. It's not so big a deal if the game isn't sending usage analytics back to the game publisher or back to Steam, but when it is, then it is making Linux userbase smaller than it actually occupies. (i.e. If that Linux user was playing a Linux game instead of a Windows / WINE / console game.)

My feeling is that Linux user percentage worldwide could be as high as 3 to 4 percent. And, that userbase would play more games on Linux, if those games were available on Linux.

This is also my "way of gaming", I got Linux only on my system and I don't use wine , so thumbs up!

Though I think it is perfectly fine if people are using different systems to to play their favorite games. I had a PS3 once too and are certainly still tempted when seeing a glimpse of Uncharted somewhere. That said I sincerely hope that people are enabling their brains when thinking about wine gaming. Wine is a direct competitor to Feral/Aspyr imho. If one cares about Linux as a platform then a port from Feral/Aspyr and friends should always be preferred above buying the game for windows and playing it via wine.

I hear a lot of voices that Skyrim or Doom should come to Linux. This would be pointless, the sales would marginal since a lot of potential Linux gamer already play these games using wine. I know of course that this would not happen if there would be a day one release. But that is simply mostly not feasible for the 1% market share. There are exceptions though like this title here!

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Quoting: eldersnakeBeen playing F1 2017 with the Logitech Driving Force GT myself actually. Works superbly and I've been having a blast! I wasn't sure we'd have a racing game I'd enjoy as much as DiRT Rally, but damn, F1 2017 is brilliant.

Yeah, Dirt is really cool, but fighting wheel to wheel against other drivers in F1 2017 is a different level. The AI is also doing great, even on easy* you can't just overtake on the straight, you really need to be better.

*Well for my credits: I'm using the highest easy level, so close to medium ;)

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I'm currently trying to improve my track record in Brazil.
F1 2017, with "elite" realism but easy AI, is so much fun to drive!
(I'm using a Logitech G25, works perfectly and I guess they are not that expensive anymore.)

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Quoting: liamdaweEven so, the titles Feral have ported this year have been pretty incredible for us.

Yeah, this goes without saying. I'm very grateful that Feral is still on board with Linux, considering how difficult Linux can be as platform and community.

Though I'm curious what their current mission statement is. I guess Mac, their roots, got some momentum this year due to Metal, next to that they are experimenting with iOS and Android. I hope they succeed everywhere. Having them strong as a company is good for us ;)

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Quoting: MohandevirI would like to have a report form Feral about the number of games they ported in 2016 and in 2017.

Yeah, would love to know that too, plus some info about which titles where (financially) successful for Feral or not.

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Quoting: LeopardNope , money and fame doesn't mean anything.

It does mean something, but it is only half of the story. The other half are big titles and users. Both will only grow gradually slowly side by side (kind of chicken and egg issue :)).

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Quoting: ArdjeThis is pretty sad... On a steam machine it's 61.51 euro if you already have hitman with all the episodes. If I would actually buy it on the steam machine it would result in 58.31 euro.
Now if I look at the website and search for it, it says in the listing 58.31 euro, but on the page itself it says 18.38 euro (20% discount). It lists a price for every item, while on the big picture version all prices are 0.
It feels like the steam store is bugging again, in the same way it was bugging with payday 2. Only with payday 2, it was also on the website completely broken, requiring those that bought almost every dlc to put down another 44 euro due to the 50% discount.
I also still can't even look at the F1 2017 page from the steam machine...

Wierd, I updated my Hitman Linux release (all season 1 episodes) via Steam to the GOTY edition for ~ 18 Euros. The update was a little bit hidden as 2 DLC's (patient zero campaign and extra costumes).

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Quoting: Geppeto35Thanks Feral for porting! I will buy it (if i understand if it's different from what i already bought?) in your store, as usual.

See https://www.feralinteractive.com/en/news/825/
"If you already own some HITMAN content, buy from Steam to complete your Game of the Year set."

The extra campaign (Patient Zero) plus the three new escalation mission packs are new compared to the original Linux release.

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