Quoting: chancho_zombieLiam you are missing a great game although with mixed reviews: Deus Ex Mankind Divided.

$ 4.49 (US) £ 2.99 (UK) € 4.49 (EU)

I have not played it yet I bought it on the spring sale (for double price) so I cannot comment.

It's only got mixed reviews because some people are entitled idiots who think that they get to dictate every aspect of a game in a series they feel passionately about. Typical toxic fandom.

If you have a powerful PC, but this. It's absolutely excellent.

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Quoting: MaturionI understand why they do this. I like GOG's DRM-free philosophy and in fact GOG should be the natural choice over Steam for a Linux user. But GOG's Linux support is just bad, Galaxy isn't available on Linux four years after it was launched.

See, now, that's just not true for me. I choose Steam over GOG in most cases, because they don't have Origin for Linux over on GOG. I use Steam because of the incredible convenience - one library, play-time stats, integrated forums/guides, integrated multiplayer options, text chat with friends, status/presence which is also games-based, automatic updates. These are features that make comparing Steam to GOG impossible.

Throw in the awesome and regular sales, plus the ad-hoc sales, Steam is my first choice, every time. Until GOG release Origin on Linux, my decisions aren't based on DRM, they're based on features GOG don't have and apparently have very little interest in prioritising.

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyWhile I tend to agree with your sentiments, I find it weird to be referring to Tim Minchin of all people to endorse it. Don't get me wrong, I love Tim Minchin's stuff--but mainly because the sarcasm is so brilliantly scathing.

Tim is a bit (okay, a lot) controversial, but that speech, made back in 2013 (here's Tim's own site [External Link]) was pretty pivotal for me. It made me realise how badly certain things were affecting me, things that I had very little control over, and that I had to move on, take a more positive approach to the things that motivated me. It was the same year I finally ditched Windows, so hearing Tim's take on life, it's meaninglessness (is that a word?) and how you should therefore fill it (not fillet), really restored a good portion of my enthusiasm for tech. And life generally, since tech is a big part of mine - work and play in fact.

It's been a bumpy ride, but that speech was truly inspirational for me. I try to live by it every day. Don't always manage, but hey ho. It's all about balance.

Or to throw in a little Zen:

I don't know where I'm going, the river can decide.
It's not about the destination, it's the glory of the ride

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Quoting: ShmerlI agree with positive approach idea. So you propose to avoid answering any questions like "why is this or that bad"?

I think that can be framed positively too though.

Steam is bad because they can take away your entire games collection for little-to-no reason and then it's in your hands to fight for it back.

vs

GOG is awesome because everything they sell is DRM-free. That means that they have no control over my games collection, whatsoever.

Just focus on the positive.

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Quoting: scaineShmerl, how do you feel about the revelation that your anti-DRM stance is so vehemently articulated and you're so immovable in your views that you're actually encouraging pro-DRM behaviour from others?

That would be a negative thing, but how do you see it as movable exactly? I.e. let's say you are arguing with proponents of overreaching policing, that it violates people's rights. They'll tell you that policing is more important than freedom, which logically leads for them to some kind of dictatorial approach. Agreeing to that or endorsing it is a slippery slope.

But no-one is suggesting that you agree or endorse DRM, definitely. My point is that you're making assumptions and in some cases even attacking the people that do agree to or endorse some limited form of DRM. You might be right that this is a slippery slope, but you won't help change their minds by telling them that they're idiots for doing so. These people might be potential allies, and now they've hardening their resolve to continue using, say, SteamDRM, because it puts them in opposition you (and in their view, SteamDRM is so invisible to be not part of this debate anyway).

So, first, the more you try to win a battle that way, the more you push people away. And second, don't attack DRM, and instead tell people why DRM-free is so much better.

The difficulty you'll face is that, like giving up Windows, embracing a DRM-free existence is all about sacrifice. Sure, some things are better once you do it, but a lot of it sacrifice. That's a hard sell. Worse, this is GamingOnLinux. It's a site full of people who have ALREADY made a sacrifice to give up Windows (sure, not everyone here has, but you get the idea). So that's an EVEN HARDER sell. But my main point is that you should sell it, rather than shit on other people's views and way of life. Because people respond far better to enthusiasm and positivity than criticism of their lifestyle choices and core beliefs.

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Quoting: scaineShmerl, how do you feel about the revelation that your anti-DRM stance is so vehemently articulated and you're so immovable in your views that you're actually encouraging pro-DRM behaviour from others?

See the last paragraph from Salvatos just two hours ago
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/feral-interactive-have-no-plans-to-put-their-linux-ports-on-gog.11987/comment_id=125993

Indeed, that comment is what led me to make my comment. I had exactly that situation in work just last week when I my harsh critique of Microsoft's latest bullshit (tying Windows Hello to use MS Authenticator and deliberately breaking compatibility with the recognised standard to ensure that Google Auth doesn't work) actually drove my colleagues to actually defend the behaviour and, I suspect, hardening their resolve to push this shitty deal on to our staff. I helped that happen. Go me. Even worse, I broke my own promise. I ragged on MS for being dicks, instead of trying to convince my colleagues that the standards-based approach was best. My default position was negativity and had the opposite effect to what I'd hoped.

So yeah, we can be extremely destructive with this stuff.

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Shmerl, how do you feel about the revelation that your anti-DRM stance is so vehemently articulated and you're so immovable in your views that you're actually encouraging pro-DRM behaviour from others?

I'm massively anti-MS and I'd be extremely upset to learn that I was so fanatical about my hatred of them that I was actively encouraging my friends and colleagues to use or defend it more, instead of my intention - from them to discover and hopefully try Ubuntu.

That would encourage some harsh introspection, surely? It did with me. As Tim Minchin so eloquently put it in his Commencement Speech to the University of WA [External Link], you should define yourself by what you love. Don't get dragged down by the things you hate. Even if that means taking a knock or two on the way. God knows, MS knows how to hand out a punch, sadly, but I try not to let those define me. I can vouch that it's a much healthier way to live.

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Can't wait to buy/play this! Very happy to see this happening... I began to doubt if it would come, so this is great news!

Just need Astroneers to keep their "Q2 2018" promise too now, and I'll be in gaming heaven!

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Yeah, I bought the Warhammer games out of loyalty, but absolutely zero interest in Total War games. They must be popular/sell well, though, given that Feral have been pretty loyal to them.

I'll stick to the big AAA single-player games they churn out, like the Tomb Raiders, Life is Strange, Hitman and Deus Ex. Goddam, it's so good to have stuff like that on Linux.

Sometimes it just hits me too. "THESE GAMES ARE ON LINUX". I mean... LINUX?? Holy crap! Remember just five years ago, we were excited about a new Humble Bundle that had a Limbo port! Look where we are now!! Incredible.

I mean... seriously: https://www.feralinteractive.com/en/linux-games/ [External Link]

Mind-blowing.

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Given my backlog of unplayed games, epic learning-curves like DOTA2 will also put me off. Also, unless the multi-player is co-op, I'll tend not to play. This sounds like it might be cool, but if it's behind a sub, then nope. If it was a one-off payment, I might be tempted. Maybe. Still that massive learning curve though.

What's it at these days? 110+ heroes? How many items are there? And each hero has, what, five abilities? Just mental, the hours you'd have to invest into this game to be effective at it.

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