Quoting: poiuz

Quoting: Smoke39The purpose of copyright isn't to protect some "god-given" right to control "intellectual property," it's to incentivize contributing to society by guaranteeing a good faith opportunity to profit from one's work. It's entirely reasonable to question how well copyright achieves this, and to scrutinize how individual owners use their copyright.

You're right: It's a man given right. But you're not scrutinizing how their using their rights. You're just violating their rights. And they are contributing to society, they spend a lot of money (paying people) to create video games which people want to play.

Quoting: Smoke39Like jarhead was saying, I already have hardware that would be perfectly capable of running their games. If they won't sell me their games without strings attached (buying redundant hardware), then I would argue they aren't really using their copyright in good faith.

Just because you own a car doesn't give you the right to drive it (anyway you want). You still need a permit & must comply with the rules.

It doesn't matter what you're arguing in some forum. You're still just violating their rights. If you disagree, sue them. Maybe you will receive the permission to do so.

Quoting: Smoke39If a bunch of hobbyists are able to meet a demand in their spare time, for free, better than a large, wealthy corporation, then the profit motive has failed, and the system should be re-evaluated. In the mean time, it is ethical to resort to alternative means. No one should be able to lay claim to a market they choose not to pursue.

Neither the demand nor the means justify these actions. We're not talking about basic needs, we're talking about recreational activities. Also, we're not talking about limited goods. There is an endless amount of alternatives which you can use without violating someones rights.

In fact, it doesn't even make sense: If you'd simply buy a game from a developer which supports your platform you improve the platform itself. The developer will have the means to support your platform in the future.

Quoting: Smoke39As for the GPL, I have no idea what parallel you're even trying to draw. The entire concept of copyleft is to use copyright against itself to "hack" freedom into a system that would otherwise tend to restrict it, and would be unnecessary if copyright didn't exist in the first place.

You don't own any software in the copyright world. Any software is provided under the terms of licenses. It's hypocrisy to demand compliance with FOSS licenses & ignore everything else.

Quoting: HelmicSeems a bit strange […]

What the heck? You're behaving like a white knight fighting for justice when you're just a kiddy who needs to justify its "piracy". There is absolutely no reason to play these games in the first place. It's better to not play any games and do something useful instead. It's really strange to justify these violations with FOSS.

To summarize: You don't have right to decide what is right & what is wrong. Stop sugarcoating your behavior.

The fundamental mistake underpinning your reasoning is that you're completely ignoring the power dynamics of capitalism. You keep appealing to people's rights under the law, but the law is disproportionately shaped by the owner class. The game is rigged, and you're wagging your finger at people for not following its bogus rules, even as those who rigged it continue to win despite that defiance.

Also copyleft isn't so much an assertion of copyright as it is an assertion against it. It's not inconsistent to support an assertion of freedom at the same time as excusing defiance of restriction.

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Quoting: spacemonkeyWhat I got from reading the replies to legluondunet's post: Apparently, playing roms needs to be justified. So, that kinda proofed his point about it being unethical.

"I think [thing]. If you disagree with [thing], then by saying so, and explaining why, you are proving [thing]."

I am genuinely flabbergasted by the flagrant illogic of this non-argument.

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Quoting: damarrin

Quoting: BladePupper

Quoting: legluondunetNintendo is an innovative company and produces user-friendly games, switch emulators must be costing them a lot of money.

I'm mostly curious as to how nintendo has innovated in the past decade and even since the release of the switch. Also yes bleem was definitely a thing and its legal precedent is still massively important.

The Switch was a huge innovation in itself. The Steam Deck is a complete rip off of that, as are all the Aya and other devices. Add to that that they make the best games and they don't need to be innovating any more in the near future.

I agree BTW they're a backwards and customer hostile company, but it's their IP and they can do anything they want with it.

In what way is the Steam Deck a ripoff of the Switch? It can't be the joycons, because the Deck doesn't have that. It can't be the controls-on-either-side-of-the-screen layout, because that's a long established form factor. It can't be the concept of running "big screen" software on a "small screen" device, because the Nomad already did that for consoles a million years ago, and laptops have been doing that for PC for a long time as well.

Really, handheld gaming has been chasing couch/desk gaming since its inception. It's just that now mobile computing technology has started to catch up. All Nintendo really did was skip the console this gen, and instead enable their handheld to plug into a TV.

Given their dominance in the handheld gaming market, and the fact that they had already gotten out of the console horsepower arms race two generations ago, it was a smart decision, and by all accounts well executed, but I really don't think it was a "huge innovation."

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Quoting: poiuzIf we were talking about GPLed software you'd be whining about how immoral this behavior is. It's the copyright's owner privilige to decide how anything is released. This is true for Free & proprietary software.

If you don't like Nintendo, why are you buying stuff from them & support their "anti-consumer" behavior?

The purpose of copyright isn't to protect some "god-given" right to control "intellectual property," it's to incentivize contributing to society by guaranteeing a good faith opportunity to profit from one's work. It's entirely reasonable to question how well copyright achieves this, and to scrutinize how individual owners use their copyright.

Like jarhead was saying, I already have hardware that would be perfectly capable of running their games. If they won't sell me their games without strings attached (buying redundant hardware), then I would argue they aren't really using their copyright in good faith.

If a bunch of hobbyists are able to meet a demand in their spare time, for free, better than a large, wealthy corporation, then the profit motive has failed, and the system should be re-evaluated. In the mean time, it is ethical to resort to alternative means. No one should be able to lay claim to a market they choose not to pursue.

As for the GPL, I have no idea what parallel you're even trying to draw. The entire concept of copyleft is to use copyright against itself to "hack" freedom into a system that would otherwise tend to restrict it, and would be unnecessary if copyright didn't exist in the first place.

And I don't buy stuff from Nintendo, because I think they're doodie-heads.

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If Nintendo released their games on PC, they'd sell like hotcakes. Their brand is so strong, they probably wouldn't even need to go through Steam. It's an untapped goldmine that Nintendo actively chooses to leave on the table. Why the hell would I feel bad for them when people resort to unofficial means? It's the only option they've been provided!

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Quoting: CyrilI just hope there will be a AUR package...

There already is, named "soh". I've only used the appimage myself, so I don't know where it wants you to put the rom, or where it stores the otr generated from it (you need delete it so it'll generate a fresh one after major updates).

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Duke 3D is interesting because apparently it's the original Atomic Edition with all the old expansion packs that you can't get anywhere else, and not Gearbox's World Tour version with altered and missing content. Looks like this is also the only place you can get the 2D games now, too.

I've only looked at a few other games, but it sounds like they might be putting in a bit more effort than GOG as well. The reviews for Incoming report better performance than GOG, and Normality advertises both UK and US versions of the voiceovers (GOG requires a community patch for US).

Who knows, maybe they can fill a niche that GOG has shifted focus away from.

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Quoting: Craggles086Flippfly, who developed Race the Sun
are working on a game, Wisker Squadron
which is also inspired by Star Fox.

The demo they had available earlier this year was extremely rough. Not just stuff like unfinished sound design, the core gameplay didn't feel so great. They also decided to add Everspace-style "free-roam" levels out of nowhere for some reason, which I don't think complement the game at all.

We'll see how it turns out when it's done, but my hopes have been lowered, unfortunately.

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Quoting: ixnariGreat, more unneeded cruft. On a related note, check out the Steam curator named Denuvo Games. Their list of games that use and games that have stopped using Denuvo is pretty extensive. With this, I imagine the list is going to get much, much bigger.

PCGamingWiki also lists it, along with loads of other technical info. I always check a game's PCGW entry for potential bullshit before even thinking of buying from one of the bigger publishers.

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Quoting: fleskI think nostalgia is the primary reason why everyone's being so critical of this new style.

Or, y'know, they just don't like it. I have no nostalgia for the franchise and I think it looks like ass. You can disagree, but stop using this fallacious argument to try to invalidate anyone who feels differently than you.

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