Quoting: Shannon_VanWagnerThis is absolutely awesome! So, the way I understand it - when we install games that use the Proton functionality, there's a report available for the developer to see that Linux gamers are actually out here. If that leads to more games being assured to work with Linux, then that's a win IMHO.

Another thing I was thinking about.. we need to get Valve to somehow let us bring in other win-based games to our Steam library to try with Proton.


Does anyone have a good suggestion for how to get a list of AAA titles that are working good with Proton? I'm looking to get my hands on some good games.

Thanks!

You can check Steam Play Compatibility Reports website and see the reports people submitted.

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Quoting: Comandante Ñoñardo

Quoting: Sputnik_tr_02

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoAnyone know to disable the proton logs. They are eating more than 500MB of my almost full SSD.

Hi, can you tell me where the logs are located?

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Thanks. Strange, i only get logs if i put PROTON_LOG=1 %command% in the launch options of a game, otherwise Proton does not create any logs by default for me.

If you renamed user_settings.sample.py into user_settings.py that could be the reason.

If that is the case you can try putting a " # " in front of the line like this:
# "WINEDEBUG": "+timestamp,+pid,+tid,+seh,+debugstr,+module"

Or try setting that like:
"WINEDEBUG": "-all"

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Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoAnyone know to disable the proton logs. They are eating more than 500MB of my almost full SSD.

Hi, can you tell me where the logs are located?

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Since Steam Play and Proton is a thing now this could be a nice peace of hardware to play less demanding games. I hope they can deliver what they are promising. Fingers crossed.

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Quoting: Cyba.Cowboy

Quoting: pbMy guess is before the next big sale, which should be around Halloween. If not that, then before the Winter Sale for sure.

That'd be doing themselves a favor is they did - I buy most of my games via GOG.com these days, but the ability to purchase a non-Linux game in Steam and have it "just work" in Steam for Linux would be a pretty big selling point for me... GOG.com would still be my preferred store of course (I'm rather anti-DRM), but it'd convince me to spend a little more in Steam's store from time-to-time too.

And any Windows game you buy and play via Steam Linux client will count as a Linux sale, that's another plus side to this.

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Quoting: Comandante Ñoñardo

Quoting: GuestI guess that's why Quantum Break, Microsoft's breakout, DX12, UWP, Windows Store, Windows 10, Xbox 'Play Anywhere' flagship title is on Steam.

... and I just bought it on Linux, so that counts as a Steam for Linux sale—and it runs flawlessly on Steam Play!!!

"Thanks Microsoft Studios! This looks like a pretty good game." ;)

Wait!
Is not infected with Denuvo???

Quoting: KimyrielleSo...

What do people think is the better choice to run Windows games now? regular WINE? Staging? Proton?

For Steam games, Proton, because if you buy a windows game, it will be counted as a game sold on Linux.



BTW, I'm gonna create another Steam account just for Proton games, but not yet; I will do it once this feature get out the beta stage and is fully released in the official Steam client.

For now, for testing purposes, I will copy all the downloaded steam library of my (legit) windows 7 machine to another SSD.
I will activate my Steam windows account on this Linux machine and see what happen...

I wonder if Bioshock 2 works fine on Proton.
The last time I tested it on wine, it crashed after a few minutes. I understand that even Windows users had that bug...
I played entirely on my windows 7 machine with the graphics at maximum without any problems.. maybe the problem was caused by a wrong library..Who knows.

I finished Bioshock 2 long time ago using wine, if i remember correctly you need to set the texture details to medium to prevent the game from crashing (Regardless of how much VRam you have). I haven't tested it with Proton tough.

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Could it be Kingdom Come Deliverance? I hope so.

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Quoting: Projectile VomitI am all about native Linux games, but I have to admit that there are more than a few games in my collection that I run from Wine. I understand that it goes against the idea that companies won't care to make native Linux games if people are willing to run them using Wine, but the reality is, those games are simply not going to get ported and dammit, I want to play them.

That being said, I am looking forward to simply making a couple of clicks, rather than jumping through hoops, to play games like Diablo 3, Skyrim, Dungeons & Dragons Online, etc. (actually, Skyrim was a pretty easy install, compared to the others mentioned, but still).

I welcome our non-emulator to the Steam fray, if that is what is happening.

I understand people's concern about this wine situation, but companies still won't care about Linux if our market share stays this low regardless of wine's existence.

That being said, imagine that most of the windows games (old and new) working hassle free using wine, most people unhappy about windows would switch. And when Linux market share reaches a certain point it would be too risky for game devs to not to port the game and only then we can break this chicken and egg dilemma.

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Quoting: beniwtv@Whitewolfe80 You do make some compelling arguments. I see where developers could get lazy if we play our games via Wine and just be like "Nah, it works in Wine, don't bother with a port". I also could see how one might think that will make less players come to Linux, since if they have to use Wine, they can stay on Windows just as well.

But I don't think that is a problem. See, we're already playing non-native games on Linux, for example the games that come with Dosbox from GOG. I see Wine being no different to that - if the game runs well and I can play it - I don't care if it uses a wrapper or not. And if it doesn't work, I don't buy it.

And one could argue that Wine made some Windows users switch over to Linux, cause they preferred game(s) now worked. So Wine can also help - kinda like a double-edged sword.

And last but not least, engines like Godot have perfect Linux support and engines like Unity and Unreal got waaay better (and are still being improved), so it is easier than ever to get games on Linux. Even if you don't use any engine, engine building blocks like SDL also have gotten way better. To the point that it is very possible to make games that work cross-platform (and yes, every OS has quirks, even if you're cross-platform from the start - but those can be overcome.)

Agreed, i find this whole "Wine hurts the chance of native Linux game ports" argument is pointless. What should we do then, stop working on these projects and sit back and hope that we may get a Linux port. That will never happen. I have 255 games in my Steam library and only 63 of them have Linux port. I have switched to Linux some two years ago and was dual booting but then had enough and wiped Windows entirely and wine helped me to do that. And since then only one game got ported to Linux in my library, but i played and finished more than 20 windows only games from my library under Linux thanks to projects like wine and dxvk. And i believe a lot of Windows users on the edge like i was and wine will help them to nuke Windows once and for all.

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I'll be playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat with mods. S.T.A.L.K.E.R series are awesome. I've been playing them since 2007 and i am glad they run just fine with wine.

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