Quoting: liamdaweAny one else have other feedback on that?

I'd propose for first question to include Proton in Steam as well, since it's easier to see total value for Wine usage. Otherwise you need to combine percentages.

I.e. it's easy to see two things if you include it:

1. Total number of people who use Wine and any derivative in any possible case.
2. Total number of people who use Steamplay.

I'd say #1 is more interesting than (#1 - #2), i.e. than number of people who use Wine but not Steamplay.

Either way, you can calculate it from both cases, the question is, which metric is more interesting by default.

To make it super easy to look at, you can make 3 questions :) As long as it won't be confusing.

1. Do you use Wine/derivatives in any possible way (includes Steamplay).
2. Do you use Wine/derivatives but not Steamplay?
3. Do you use Steamplay?

You can also calculate one of them, based on the answers for other two and just display it without asking for it explicitly ;)

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I posted this in the Reddit thread, but if anyone is interested. If you want to extract music from KoTOR / KoTOR II, you can use these scripts which produce proper audio files from the obfuscated game ones:

* For KoTOR [External Link]
* For KoTOR II [External Link]

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Kudos for continuing your work!

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Quoting: CorbenThe two questions should aim to distinguish between if you are using a compatibility layer explicitly (wine, external proton) or passively (Steam play, internal proton).

No need for two questions for that. Second question covers it. If you aren't using Steam Play, you'll say no for the second one. First question should cover all Wine use cases. That's the point of having a different question.

Quoting: CorbenWe are playing games on and through Steam. On Linux. Without tinkering with setting them up. Counting as Linux sales when bought. That's the "normal" way for the gamer

Just because you are used to it, doesn't make it a "normal way for the gamer". I.e. for DRM-free gamers, it's not normal for instance.

Quoting: CorbenI haven't tried to use Proton outside Steam yet, is it easy to use? Is there a significant benefit to use Proton instead of wine?

I see no point in using it without Steam, since it has Steam specific stuff, but it's not really hard to use (without Steam those parts are not utilized). See @adamhm's srcripts [External Link].

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Quoting: CorbenThe confusion comes from, if the question in the survey to use wine is meant technically or logically.

Technically, proton is wine (with modifications).
Logically it's not, as it's run through the native Linux Steam client.

Not if you use it without Steam client. Then you run it same way as any other Wine variant. So it's not Proton that's an unusual use case, but Steam Play (which uses Proton).

This was covered above by proposing two questions. One about Wine and derivatives (this should be including Proton) and one about Steam Play (specific use case).

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I'd take Qt over GTK.

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Do you use Wine (excluding Proton via SteamPlay)?

This is even more complicated. Better to keep it simple.

1. Do you use Wine or derivatives?
2. Do you use Steam Play?

Questions are pretty self explanatory.

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Quoting: dpanter

Quoting: Shmerlsome who use Proton but not Steam Play

I'm curious about how many people fit into this category. Not sure if it's worth the trouble to actually find out though.

Not sure, but I don't see the need to conflate the two. For example @adamhm's scripts use Proton, so anyone using them is potentially using it. Not sure if Lutris uses Proton as is in some cases. But there is no need to assume that no one does.

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Quoting: jensThis is what I would suggest too. :)

Not exactly. You suggest to in the first question to exclude Proton. That's a different question from Wine+derivatives. It is actually more complicated to ask "do use Wine or derivatives, but not Proton?" than "do you use Wine or derivatives?".

Using your method combined with proposal to make the second question about Steam Play, some who use Proton but not Steam Play will answer no to both questions which makes zero sense if you actually want to evaluate Wine usage.

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Quoting: GuestAlso, it makes no sense to use Rust unless you’re in love with it. It’s a complicated language used by very few programmers. It’s much better to use C.

All languages have trade-offs. You pay for C simplicity with its primitivism and a big and painful overhead of code stability and correctness verification (unless you simply don't care about the later and the result can end up being a crashing mess). I'd take language complexity for the price of much higher default code correctness built into the language.

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