Quoting: RybladeNo other reason. At all.

Does it matter what other reason there is? They still left DRM-free users out. Ding ding ding, but you clearly don't think it matters, since you are OK with DRM apparently :)

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Quoting: HoriI am a little upset too knowing that Torchlight 1 for Linux is available on GOG but not on Steam - but that's just one single game.

Torchlight 1 is not available for Linux on GOG either.

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Quoting: Mountain ManDRM rarely deters the hardcore warez crowd, but it does deter "casual" users, especially when services like Steam offer such an easy and convenient way to legally obtain software.

Hardcore crowd are ones that take said DRM and break it to make DRM-free torrent releases. Casual pirates don't need anything hardcore, they just download what the hardcore ones prepared for them. So in the end DRM deters nothing. Those who want and can buy DRMed version will buy it and will be punished with DRM for buying. Pirates which don't buy will be rewarded with cracked DRM-free version. That's a rather perverted approach designed by DRM proponents.

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Quoting: johndoe2.2 When you buy or install GOG games, you might have to agree to additional contract terms with the developer/publisher of the game (e.g. they might ask you to agree to a game specific End User Licence Agreement). If there is any inconsistency or dispute between those ‘EULAs’ and this Agreement, then this Agreement wins.

The last sentence does not sound really good.

To be honest. I don't think that most games from GOG are allowed to be played at the "same time" with only "one purchase".
Most people don't read EULAs.

I don't see anything about this specific point in GOG's agreement. And I said, most games don't make additions to it. Do you have an example of such game that adds such condition?

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Quoting: johndoeMaybe this is the reason why Feral don't like to put their games on GOG.

If anyone wants to ignore that limitation, they can access pirated games anyway, so how exactly would it even prevent family sharing to begin with? It's same as with other not authorized sharing. So it's not an argument to use DRM.

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Quoting: johndoeFrom the view of a publisher it would be not clever to release a game DRM-free if it means that "one purchase" can be used at the "same time" by a multitudinous family.
This would mean that they lose a lot of money.

Smart or not smart, they are already doing it and releasing DRM-free. I doubt family is a major consideration for them. Even DRMed stores can allow family sharing (including Steam).

As GOG link above said, games can have additional agreements, but many use base agreement with GOG. In my experience, such additional agreements aren't common.

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Quoting: johndoeOK, but are you allowed to use all these installations at the "same time"? This decision can only be made by the publisher and not GOG I think.

Normal publishers care about you not copying this to other people for instance, not about how you use it yourself. But they aren't putting any technical methods to restrict you. GOG can't force publishers of course, they need to agree to release with some terms first.

If you want to know details of the user agreement, you can see it here: https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632089-User-Agreement

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Quoting: johndoeOK. So the EULA describes how many installations (maybe also backups) you are allowed to do inhouse and how many installations you can use at the "same time", right?

No, the EULA doesn't restrict how many installations or backups you are allowed to make, as long as it's for your use. It's the point of DRM-free.

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Quoting: namikoyou don't know what you're talking about and you're embarrassing yourself.

What was that about? Feral provided enough info about this, and it's clearly their decision to make, despite many above here blaming it on original publishers or other reasons. Those who excuse their DRM stance should ask themselves what's the point of doing it.

Quoting: namikoIdeally, the perfect DRM system only catches those who aren't legitimate buyers, but that doesn't happen. Doesn't mean I like it, but I'm sending my authentication data to Steam as permission to access my library. That's a restriction on how I can use the software, and I have to prove this to them with that email address, password and phone number, over and over, years after my initial purchase.

Only to the extent that you can't back it up first. Sure, that's an aspect of DRM in Steam. That's one of the points that DRM-free is avoiding. You can back up your DRM-free purchase (from GOG or whatever store), and then use it even if that store closes down and there is no one to authenticate with. I said it quite clearly above. DRM is a restriction after purchase.

Quoting: namikoGOG will ask you for this access, too, repeatedly if you don't have cookies saved. How else do they create a business without some restrictions on who accesses their games? You have no online business if you don't place some restrictions on your assets.
making a purchase and it isn't free (as in free beer). That's why the whole DRM argument is sort of pointless.

Very simple. Sell the game, get paid for it. No DRM garbage attached to restrict the user after that. Works pretty well for them, their store is growing.

Quoting: namikoBy the definitions I've put forth so far, there isn't ANY online storefront that is effectively DRM-Free; so long as you're making a purchase and it isn't free (as in free beer). That's why the whole DRM argument is sort of pointless.

Your definition is incorrect, I already explained to you how. Authenticating you for purchase is not DRM. Restricting your use after the purchase already is.

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Quoting: johndoeMay I ask you if GOG games come with an EULA?

There is user agreement with GOG, and then game can potentially provide its own agreement with the user.

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