Quoting: GuestBecause no, we don't agree, and you know it.

I don't see how we don't agree. You just said yourself that Feral don't want to spend resources on DRM-free releases anywhere, not just on GOG. So what does it matter then, if agreements with GOG had some bumps, if it's an issue with Feral to begin with? So no need for demagoguery, it's not helping the conversation.

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Quoting: GuestAnd I already answered _that_.

Saying that Feral don't want to do DRM-free release (anywhere). So we agree. Going around with excuses about their technical debt (like splitting out Steamworks lock-in) doesn't change the above fact. Feral are the bottleneck here and not GOG or anyone else.

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Quoting: GuestAlso, take off the Feral blinders. It's not an excuse for Feral. It's a possible explanation for the situation between Feral _and_ GOG. Don't forget the GOG part in there. It's quite simply not up to Feral alone - it is a business deal between two parties, and it may not be adequate for the needs of one or the other. Before you try, no, that can have absolutely nothing, I repeat _nothing_, to do with DRM. As I, and others, have already explained.

I already answered that. If you claim it's a specific issue between GOG and Feral, where is their DRM-free release elsewhere? You mentioned itch. I didn't see Xcom from Feral DRM-free there. So the issue is not just with GOG, but with Feral themselves.

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Quoting: GuestIt's obviously not worth it for Feral to put this on GOG. That's all that can be taken from this. And it's not the first time I've seen that from a developer, even on Windows.

Again, this is an excuse you are producing for Feral, and I don't buy this excuse. Because of many reasons explained above, including GOG not being the only DRM-free release option. Sure, it's not the first time we've seen it, so Feral can be criticized for it, same as others.

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Quoting: orochi_kyoIt so easy to come here and sound like a popular guy between these selfish human beings who thinks devs doesnt have the right to have a minimal protection of their intellectual property.

I'm not interested disproving this nonsense for the Nth time already. I'll just sum up key points:

1. DRM doesn't protect any property, but it violates users' rights because it's unethical overreaching preemptive policing.
2. Reasons for using DRM aren't related to increasing sales, because in practice DRM only decreases them.

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Quoting: MblackwellJust because something is technically possible doesn't mean it is worth the potential time and money investment.

That's kind of the point too? Feral don't see DRM-free release as something worth to spend time on. That's DRM-free unfriendly to me already. Especially when other developers spend resources on it.

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Quoting: GuestBut while we can agree that this game is not on GOG for MacOS or GNU/Linux, the reasons are important if we'd like to see those reasons overcome and have games in a form we would prefer.

The reasons could be important, if Feral would have expressed them. But they refused. So it means they don't care about help in that matter either. For DRM-free users such attitude doesn't look friendly in the least, so it's natural to assume they only care to release in DRMed stores (which is exactly what they are already doing).

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I think there is no point in arguing what consumer friendly vs user friendly means, both terms can be used interchangeably. What this is about is convenience and user rights. DRM is user rights' hostile by definition. It also degrades some user experiences in different ways. But at the same time it might not affect other user experiences, which some might focus on as convenient. It doesn't mean it doesn't degrade the former. For instance, backup is an example of user experience. DRM is aimed to prevent it, therefore it's not user friendly in that sense.

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Quoting: GuestOr maybe they could put steam shim libraries in place (technical difficulty unknown), which GOG might disallow.

Various developers have done it and so can Feral. GOG have no problem with it either. Anyway, whatever the excuse, Feral don't want to do it, and the end result is, their game is not available DRM-free. We don't argue about that, right? So in the end, it means Feral cater for DRMed stores only.

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Quoting: Beamboom

Quoting: hummer010"user friendly" != "consumer friendly".

How do you define the difference?

Consumers can think that convenient violation of their rights is "friendly", as long as its convenient.

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