Quoting: somebody1121Now i understand why mesa starts moving to gitlab...

I don't think it's related. Mesa was self hosted and will be self hosted, they are just going to use Gitlab instead of Gitweb + Bugzilla and etc.

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Quoting: GustyGhostWhat for those of us who use GitHub to contribute to largish projects? I am migrating away but I don't exactly want to trash my github account. Maybe keep it around for now as a courtesy.

Encourage them to move. Some would, but I expect that some won't.

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Quoting: noxI recently read that Vulkan games aren't allowed on the windows store

Yep, all that talk about "new MS has changed for the better" breaks on hard reality of actual lock-in like above.

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I'll move my personal stuff to Gitlab. They can promise all they want, better be safe than sorry. Plus I don't feel comfortable at all with MS hovering somewhere in the background.

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Quoting: g000hEITR

Ah, yes. Eitr. I hope it won't take forever like Star Citizen does.

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We Happy Few, The Bard's Tale IV, Underworld Ascendant, Insomina, and fixes in wined3d and dxvk to finally support D3D11 better in Wine.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeI agree, but the console needs to be standardized in it's hardware. Otherwise it's just a bunch of parts in a box. Developers like a target for performance, etc.

Not really. Mobile and PC markets work fine with variety of hardware available. They are essentially "parts in a box". That doesn't stop developers and users. I don't see why consoles need to be any different in that regard. What's useful are common APIs and system stack. That's where above things I mentioned come in.

Quoting: slaapliedjeI know I'm already annoyed that a lot of games I have that I can't see in their full potential because I don't have an HDR TV or a Pro.

That's why well designed games adapt to different resolutions and hardware capabilities. That's more work, sure, but it's the right thing to do. If you can't see something in full potential because of your hardware, you'll get better hardware. Wasn't it always the case?

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Quoting: sarmadVulkan is already here and well supported. Wayland is less important than you might think, and it's certainly less important for consoles than it is for desktops and laptops. OpenXR? How many PS4 gamers do you know who use VR? It's a new market and will continue to be a minority market for the foreseeable future.

Wayland is the goal either way, since the whole stack is switching to it. The more raw state it is in, the more bugs there are. Things should be solid, and not "in transition" for years.

No idea about PS4, I've never used it.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeI think this was the downfall of the Steam Machine.

Steam Machines weren't ready. Far from it. I'd say to have a decent console, three things should come together. Vulkan, Wayland and OpenXR. Once that works in combined stack, there can be successful high end Linux consoles.

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Quoting: ShmerlWhy not Ryzen + Vega?

Because of the cost, obviously.

Not sure if it makes it worth the lower power though. I get the tradeoff, but then they should consider different tiers with more powerful components.

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