Quoting: LinasWe don't need a slightly improved card that nobody can buy. We need the existing card to actually be in stock.

I suppose availability should improve once they'll refine their production. It's the first time they used new memory type.

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Quoting: mrdeathjrEasy to explain because more titles run on nvidia than amd (because some titles have nvidia optimizations, etc)

And other things case in global situation amd still dont offer same features than nvidia:

-In software: driver GUI, power limit features, dont depend lastest llvm, kernel (llvm and lastest kernel could be problematic in debian and more problematic in ubuntu based distros*)

That's a non issue, since it's mostly caused by Mesa accelerated development in the recent few years when a lot more efforts were poured into it. Mesa is close to catching up on all major points, so development will slow down, and this distro disparity won't be so problematic in the future. Besides, gamers know to use latest Mesa and rolling distros if they care about best drivers (or know how to use latest Mesa independently from the system one).

Driver gap with Nvidia is mostly closed now, and Mesa is already competitive. Nvidia doesn't have any major advantage in this anymore.

Quoting: mrdeathjrWidely supported in native and non native (wine ports in steam case topware interactive titles), intel and amd gpus are not supported or broken shaders dont fix, observer door and others

Totally opposite in my experience. Nvidia doesn't really care about something like Wine, while Mesa developers actually help with related bugs. AMD is clearly the best option when Wine is concerned.

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Quoting: LinasI am very happy about the performance, and the quality of the open-source drivers. I put it into Thermaltake Core V1 [External Link] ITX chassis, where it has its own air intake, and I am seeing temperatures from around 35°C at idle to around 65°C under load. The fan is audible under load, but not what I would call loud.

Yeah, I'm quite satisfied with Mesa and my current RX 480, but getting Vega could simply give games performance boost. I don't like reference models because of noise, that's why I prefer custom ones like Sapphire which put an effort into making them silent. But good to see that there are actually custom cooling solutions that can mitigate that even for reference cards.

Quoting: LinasPricing and availability is total bullshit though. The launch was bad, and the current situation is even worse. My Vega 56 was 430€, but now they go for around 660€ and are constantly out of stock. This is the price of a GTX 1080 which is not a good deal no matter how you twist it. Assuming you can get one at all. This will be their downfall if nothing changes.

Vega refresh should come out in the first half of 2018, so it's not a very long wait. It should decrease TDP significantly from what I've heard, and pricing should also improve. So I'll just wait until then.

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Quoting: tmtvlUgh, still so many people using the crappy NVidia garbage.

AMD usage is growing. Check trends.

Also, Vega launch was quite bad. Poor availability, delayed custom models, crazy prices and excessive power consumption. In short, AMD weren't ready. Things can get better in 2018 with Vega refresh. I wanted to get Vega, but with such monsters [External Link] requiring 3 8-pin power connectors (750 W) and at that price, I'm not buying Vega until next iteration.

Quoting: tmtvlWonder how many people are gonna switch from Intel to AMD after the IME stuff...

AMD have their own analogous feature. I've read somewhere they now let it to be disabled, but I'm not sure if it's completely disabled or just hidden. Needs more research.

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Quoting: TheRiddickpreferably with 7nm we should get significantly lower power demand and a 1080ti competitor.

7 nm Vega refresh is supposed to happen in H1 2018, so I'm waiting for Sapphire to make something sensible with it, and not that 3 8-pin power connectors monster.

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Quoting: KimyrielleWould be awesome to see AMD becoming a real alternative to NVidia again. I certainly like their way to handle the community better than NVidia's...

Drivers wise it's already a great alternative. Now they need to catch up on hardware. Vega is not very competitive on power consumption.

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Great. I wonder if radv can use some parts of amdvlk to fill the missing gaps, and other way around.

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Yeah, it's quite nasty when commercial projects just use FOSS as their base, and never contribute anything back or support original developers.

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Nice to see Kalypso releasing their Linux games on GOG after all. Not properly working multiplayer is probably cased by missing Galaxy libs, but it's way better than no GOG release at all caused by the same reason.

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Looks like GOG release is a possibility:

we are also considering a GOGstore.

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